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Let's hope it is just another talk fest.  BTWWWWWWWW.... they wanted it "global warming", they can't just backtrack to "climate change"! |
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Of coarse it's a talkfest. If you haven't seen The Watchmen, episode 2x05 'A Waste Of Energy' shows these gatherings off perfectly. Actually the entire series is very Krudd like, maybe working dog have a crystal ball!
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Copenhagen opens with warning to leaders AP Last updated 23:44 07/12/2009
United Nations Climate Change Conference 2009 REUTERS
The largest and most important UN climate change conference in history opened Monday, with diplomats from 192 nations warned that this could be the best, last chance for a deal to protect the world from calamitous global warming.
The conference, the climax of two years of contentious negotiations, convened in an upbeat mood after a series of promises by rich and emerging economies to curb their greenhouse gases, but with major issues yet to be resolved.
Conference president Connie Hedegaard said the key to an agreement is finding a way to raise and channel public and private financing to poor countries for years to come to help them fight the effects of climate change.
Hedegaard - Denmark's former climate minister - said if governments miss their chance at the Copenhagen summit, a better opportunity may never come.
"This is our chance. If we miss it, it could take years before we got a new and better one. If ever," she said in prepared remarks.
Denmark's prime minister said 110 heads of state and government will attend the final days of the two-week conference. President Barack Obama's decision to attend the end of the conference, not the middle, was taken as a signal that an agreement was getting closer.
At stake is a deal that aims to wean the world away from fossil fuels and other pollutants to greener sources of energy, and to transfer hundreds of billions of dollars from rich to poor countries every year over decades to help them adapt to climate change.
Scientists say without such an agreement, the Earth will face the consequences of ever-rising temperatures, leading to the extinction of plant and animal species, the flooding of coastal cities - about half of humanity lives with 100 miles (160.9 kilometres) (160 kilometers) of a coastline - more extreme weather events, drought and the spread of diseases.
Negotiations have dragged on for two years, only recently showing signs of breakthroughs with new commitments from The United States, China and India to control greenhouse gas emissions.
The first week of the conference will be focused on refining a complex text of a draft treaty. But major decisions will await the arrival next week of environment ministers and the heads of state in the final days of the conference, which is due to end Dec. 18.
Among those decisions is a proposed fund of $US10 ($NZ13.6) billion each year for the next three years for poor countries prepare climate change strategies. After that, hundreds of billions of dollars will be needed every year to set the world on a new energy path and adapt to new climates.
"The deal, that we invite leaders to sign up on, will be one that affects all aspects of society just as the changing climate does," said Danish Prime Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen. "Negotiators cannot do this alone, nor can politicians. The ultimate responsibility rests with the citizens of the world, who will ultimately bear the fatal consequences, if we fail to act."
A study released by the UN Environment Program Sunday indicated that pledges by industrial countries and major emerging nations fall just short of the reductions of greenhouse gas emissions that scientists have said are needed.
Environmentalists have warned that emissions commitments were dangerously short of what UN scientists have said were needed to keep average temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees C (3.6 F).
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/3136091/Copenhagen-opens-with-warning-to-leadersIt could well be a talk-fest, but if they don't come up with any strong decisions they are going to have to have some very good reasons why. The build-up to this conference has been so big and expectations around the world are running high. |
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What sort of Co2 emissions were put out getting all these world leaders and other reps into place. I'm guessing they didn't planeshare! heaven forbid they all send their lackeys out to buy them a video phone! |
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What sort of Co2 emissions were put out getting all these world leaders and other reps into place. I'm guessing they didn't planeshare! heaven forbid they all send their lackeys out to buy them a video phone!
Well put and observed Aqua!  Plane-pooling AKA planesharing, fab idea! They say they are concerned about Global Warming/Climate change and yet..... there they all are arriving in separate planes and using Automobiles to get around in. Let 'em walk I say!  |
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 ...that would just slow them down more, and give them more excuses!!!  |
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 ...that would just slow them down more, and give them more excuses!!! 
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But I thought human induced global warming didn't exist....  |
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We ALL know it's the cows that are to blame, what with all that methane gas they.... um.... produce.  |
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More so caused by all the hot air the Politicians produce talking about it  |
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It doesn't but they say it does so..  |
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More so caused by all the hot air the Politicians produce talking about it 
Well their is a lot! How about everyone who's worried about CO2 holds their breath, that should really reduce emissions! |
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All the crackpots are coming out of the woodwork.... (as I sit here nursing my sunburn from a very short period in the sun yesterday)
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The University of Adelaide professor did not make it inside the official climate conference venue, instead giving his speech to a rival conference organised by a US lobby group in central Copenhagen.
"Heretics are not allowed," he said of the UN conference.
He told the rival conference he remembered summers when he was a child being much warmer and said at the moment it was freezing in Perth and bucketing down.
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He doesn't sound like a crackpot to me? |
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Not the first controversy Plimer has caused but he's no 'crackpot' and unlike many he hasn't been brainwashed.
Are you saying that a noted geologist he wouldn't be looking at the correct details? You failed to mention his field of study in your little quote box.
See unlike "climate change experts" who study a pseudo science, geologists climate and chemistry changes over 100's of millions of years, not satellite based rain and temperature recording from the past 40 years.
It's a wonder the article was published given anyone who isn't a true believer is pretty much burned at the stake these days! |
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The point I was making was that supposed people 'in the know' do not help their cause by reporting incorrect information. He stated that 'at the moment' Perth is freezing and rain is bucketing down. The truth is this would be one of the warmest winters I remember and the first that I went through (like many others) not turning the heater on once. Currently we've already had several spells of around 38 degree days and another coming this weekend. This years rainfall in Perth is currently 25% down on last year and something like 30% down on average. Where are his facts for 'at the moment'?
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Stating a little bit of personal opinion doesn't make him a crackpot Tasman. |
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Not the first controversy Plimer has caused but he's no 'crackpot' and unlike many he hasn't been brainwashed.
Are you saying that a noted geologist he wouldn't be looking at the correct details? You failed to mention his field of study in your little quote box.
See unlike "climate change experts" who study a pseudo science, geologists climate and chemistry changes over 100's of millions of years, not satellite based rain and temperature recording from the past 40 years.
It's a wonder the article was published given anyone who isn't a true believer is pretty much burned at the stake these days!
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Currently we've already had several spells of around 38 degree days and another coming this weekend.
And that's never happened before? every time the thermometer goes over 30 in Sydney some doomsdayer is off like it's a first; while we've had hot days I'm sure when I was a kid we had more consistently hot days. And I really can't believe given we had a long cold winter that the entire year could be counted as a chart topper! |
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Here's another pile of manure from our top fertiliser salesman!
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THE Prime Minister has blamed the states for Australia's plus-sized delegation to a world summit on climate change in Copenhagen.
The Australian team at the UN climate summit in Copenhagen could number 114, according to official documents reported on in The Australian.
The delegation could include Kevin Rudd's official photographer, seven media advisers, 29 staff from the climate change department along with staff from six other federal departments or agencies, according to the list.
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Copenhagen may fail, Kevin Rudd warns
PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd has arrived in Copenhagen and warned the high-profile UN climate summit may fail as Al Gore, President Barack Obama and Ban-ki Moon make their forecasts.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com......freuy9-1225810811759Copenhagen might be a failure but Keven certainly is. Remember we'd already be slave to Rudd's Excessive Taxation Scam had it not been to Tony Abbott. Now Kev the banks are screwing us, the oil companies are screwing us and the supermarkets are screwing us - how about you get your fat, lazy, showboating arse back here and trying fixing something that isn't fiction! |
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Time to scrap Rudd climate plan - academics A COALITION of academics who doubt the science on the causes of climate change has called on the Rudd Government to dump plans for an emissions trading scheme and consider alternatives.
Their call comes as a Nielsen poll, published in Fairfax newspapers today, shows Australians prefer the federal coalition's climate action policy.
Of those polled, 45 per cent favoured the Opposition's direct action emissions fund over the 39 per cent who backed Labor's carbon pollution reduction scheme.
The Australian Climate Science Coalition believes the Government is losing the political high ground on global warming.
"The debacle in Copenhagen demonstrated the futility of Australia adopting a go-it-alone strategy,'' executive director Max Rheese said in a statement.
Public faith in the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had been shaken following revelations about some of its information-gathering processes, he said.
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