Well, he has pleaded guilty.  Do you believe he is?  Vote here!

I have always suspected he is.

A thriving thread on David Hicks can be found here...

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/eblah/m-1134706379/

is Yes guilty or Innocent ? I don't understand the question and vote ? sorry
but I think he is gulity.

Thanks Chris - senior's moment.     Poll amended

Ok Ive Voted now thanks

Does the 'I don't care' choice cover 'justice denied' too?  

Well it looks like Costello is saying that Hick was no hero...which confuses me because I never saw him as a hero....my main peev is that he was in detention centre for 5 year without a charge against him....ok he had some charges but the first ones were soo...try hard they got kicked out....now that he has admitted that his recent charge is true everyone is thinking "see I told you so" he is guilty of being a terrorist...did anyone really think that maybe he didn't want to be in that "hell hole" any longer and the only way that he was going to get out was admitting to something....also I find it stupid that the because it's an election year the goverment are trying to look like they are doing something about Hicks...which really they didn't the trial was always to go ahead probably when it did start....anyways that's my little rant for now

Guilty of what?  Providing material support to a terrorist organisation!

If this is the case then the US government is also guilty - as we all know, the US government has supported al qaeda and other “terrorist” groups in the past.  The US even supported Saddam *shock, horror*

If Hicks is guilty, then there is no other option but to prosecute all governments who have supported al qaeda in any capacity at any time.  There is no other option.  Australian courts will throw this conviction out as soon as it hits the appeal process.

personally i think the whole thing stinks=he is a lucky man =but doesnt deserve it- thePM should never have got involved- i bet he wishes he hadnt

what on earth was he thinking of
the Americians did find him over there of course he is guilty he should accept the responsibility of his actions and pay the price for getting caught.

I often times don't vote in a poll and take a long time to decide, or I choose the silly option if there is one, and don't really in general take polls seriously.  After not opening this thread though and just now voting, I was really supprised to see that only one other person had voted that they don't care.  It's true that the guy has had one horrible time and that the whole things stinks and that it's debatable about just who's end it stinks on or who's end stinks worse, but I don't think there's much ground either way and believe that we can't know if we can trust the information given to us about it.  The only thing certain is that Dara is a hottie.

Quoted from supernan

what on earth was he thinking of
the Americians did find him over there of course he is guilty he should accept the responsibility of his actions and pay the price for getting caught.

Guilty of what. Just as in Kosovo where he fought on the side of a paramilitary group who supported NATO he first went to Afghanistan to fight with the Mujahidin who at the time were being supported by America.

The Americans did not find him over there at all. As soon as the Americans started bombing Kabul Hicks tried to run away and was caught by the Northern Alliance now allies of the US, a group Hicks also thought of joining until he found out what horrible things they did to people.

It is not that black and white supernan, I wish it was it would have made things much easier, but it has been a damnation on our and the American governments from the first moment he was arrested and Howard tried to use him to chest beat and for political advantage before he even knew the whole story. Because he did this he dug himself into a hole and made Hicks rot until this terrible solution was arrived at so Hicks could not impact on Howard in the upcoming election.

Just shameful conduct all round and history should show how terrible Howard was in handling the Hicks situation.

I believe one of the rights you have as an Australian citizen is the right to consular assistance while overseas (whether you've been arrested/imprisoned or not). Hicks didn't receive this. He clearly has a case against the Australian Government for 'dereliction of duties'.

You have to look beyond his guilt or innocence, this is one of the rights that every Australian is entitled to, just like alleged criminals are entitled to a trial whether they've killed 0, 1 or 100 people.

Old related case:

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Hicks Sues Aust Govt over failure to protect
Monday, 26 February 2007

Hicks’ Australian Lawyers Sue Australian Government Over Failure To Protect Him

LawFuel.com - Lawyers for Australian Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks are filing a claim Monday in the Federal Court of Australia in an attempt to secure Hicks' release.

Hicks' Australian defense team, headed by David McLeod, will charge the government with breaching its duty to protect Hicks, as a citizen, by failing to call for a fair trial. Justice Brian Tamberlin will first rule whether the court has jurisdiction to hear the case; McLeod said Sunday that a failure to grant jurisdiction essentially would mean that no court in the world can review US military commissions.

McLeod also pointed to the UK's 2005 success in gaining the release of several of its citizens from Guantanamo as an example of the control the Australian government should demand over its own citizens. If Hicks' team is successful, the court could grant an order for his release.
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0702/S00394.htm

I would be hard to prove conspiracy to deny justice where communication between Au and US could be held back for 50 years under the secrets provisions. Further, the publicity surrounding this case would be damaging to Howard and I doubt it would be held in an open court.