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tramp
March 8, 2007, 7:11pm Report to Moderator

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Have you downloaded Music, Movies, Pictures without paying for them through Limewire or other method.

I don’t buy music anymore, I just listen to the radio instead, but I understand why a lot of people do.  Music Cds mostly cost around $30 yet they cost under a dollar to produce.  I believe if CDs were more affordable there would be considerable less piracy.
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I think everybody has to some degree, although I buy CDs if I really feel that they're worth it. Since Basement Jaxx isn't that popular (sales wise), I tend to buy some of their stuff.

I never pirate video games or TV shows though. Although it costs me a bundle, I own every single Sims game on PC and DS . (except for The Sims Online which I don't plan on getting, and The Sims Life Stories, which is ridiculously expensive in Australia).

I also buy box sets of my favourite TV shows if I feel that they're worth watching/re-watching. I'm currently going spastic without King of the Hill!!!
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When I was a real 'green-horn' on the web, (last week   ) somebody sent me a link to download some music . . what an adventure that turned out to be . . a serious Trojan invasion . . PC reboot . . loss of files . . and near baldness for myself . . . there is no music or movie worth the stress of that adventure being repeated.  



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I loved the story on ACA last night about how music piracy is "hurting" the big music companies, oh and if anyone wants to call the head of Sony please AM only he's going helicopter shoping this afternoon! They don't have the money to go out and find new 'talent'. Well they're hardly doing a good job at find any talent these days!!!

I've said it before if networks wanted to cut down on downloading of TV shows, broadcast them insync with original US or UK broadcasts........... daaaaa




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I buy my music off the net at  http://www.allofmp3.com/INDEX.SHTML?r=1870168116 for as little as 10c per song and no more than 27c per DJ session at excellent quality. I recently bought Norah Jones' entire new album for $2.00. It is Russian and legal and saves me a guilt trip.


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. . . . . I recently bought Norah Jones' entire new album for $2.00. It is Russian and legal and saves me a guilt trip.









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I loved the story on ACA last night about how music piracy is "hurting" the big music companies, oh and if anyone wants to call the head of Sony please AM only he's going helicopter shoping this afternoon! They don't have the money to go out and find new 'talent'. Well they're hardly doing a good job at find any talent these days!!!


If I was a rich music or movie star, what would I care if 'the little people' pirated my stuff from the internet? The more people that saw or heard my work the better.

The ones that do care are probably the stingy buggers (and many of the uber rich and famous are).

If you look at the ridiculous amount of wealth these people have in comparison to everyone else, should they really be crying about it?

I think we're all sick of crap musicians who are only in it for the money, they're ruining music!

They should be in music or acting for the love of it. A real musician should be just as happy on $50,000 a year than $50,000,000, as long as they get play to their fans.
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If I was a rich music or movie star, what would I care if 'the little people' pirated my stuff from the internet? The more people that saw or heard my work the better.

The ones that do care are probably the stingy buggers (and many of the uber rich and famous are).

If you look at the ridiculous amount of wealth these people have in comparison to everyone else, should they really be crying about it?

I think we're all sick of crap musicians who are only in it for the money, they're ruining music!

They should be in music or acting for the love of it. A real musician should be just as happy on $50,000 a year than $50,000,000, as long as they get play to their fans.

U2 moved countries to avoid paying taxes, but constantly bey-atch about kids starving when Bono claps his hands!




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U2 moved countries to avoid paying taxes, but constantly bey-atch about kids starving when Bono claps his hands!


I'm not much of a U2 fan, Bono and his God complex don't do much for me. But I can say this, at least he's doing something. When most of his peers are doing nothing.

Sure he could give 75% of his income to charity and still be rich but I won't hold it against him if he doesn't.

I believe Angelina Jolie gives 1/3 of her income to charity and her reason is "why do I need that much money". Onya Angie
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Have you downloaded Music, Movies, Pictures without paying for them through Limewire ...



No, not knowingly.  I'm too honest.  

I downloaded something off a site once, that I thought was legal, and later realised it wasn't.  I felt so guilty.  


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I'm not sure if the Russian sites are legal but if they are, I'd look out for when they might not be in the future.

I had a site bookmarked to preview mp3's called singingfish but it got bought by AOL so it's gone.

Sites like this one though, they are wrong and not ethical and possibly not legal
http://mp3.baidu.com/m?f=ms&rn=&tn=baidump3&ct=134217728&word=&lm=0

Are there other illegal sites out there so I can look out not to use them on accident?  This one looks like an innocent search engine.
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I had a look at that link but I wouldn’t be game to click on anything in case it said “format hard drive”.
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If you look at the ridiculous amount of wealth these people have in comparison to everyone else, should they really be crying about it?


That's a pretty poor excuse. If you have a high paying job, and then a homeless person came into your house and robbed you, would you be happy with that?

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If I was a rich music or movie star, what would I care if 'the little people' pirated my stuff from the internet? The more people that saw or heard my work the better.


But all those 'little people' add up. Some of those singers or movie stars could be missing out on millions...

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That's a pretty poor excuse. If you have a high paying job, and then a homeless person came into your house and robbed you, would you be happy with that? ...




Agreed.  A thief is a thief...


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Even if you use the phone at work to make a personal call?
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Even if you use the phone at work to make a personal call?


If the boss has given strict instructions not to . . then yes.  That is pretty rare though.  




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How about taking a few extra straws and salt sachets at the fast food restaurant?
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Well, they make them avaliable for free.

We have dozens of those at home
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If the boss has given strict instructions not to . . then yes.  That is pretty rare though.  



Precisely.  I used to work for a company that did not permit personal calls to be made or taken, except in the direst of emergencies (e.g. death etc.).  I followed those rules while working to get them changed. The "company" for whom I work today is much more "understanding".



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How about taking a few extra straws and salt sachets at the fast food restaurant?


Technically that's stealing too, because they are there for the use of patrons while in the restaurant.  The cost would be factored into the the prices of the food served.


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I admit I have used illegal programs to download movies and music, but really whos going to stop us downloading it? There are billions around the world searching up illegal downloads every hour.



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I call them 'Big MudPuddle' . .  

I signed up for a test month of Mobile Phone 'Ctones' . . it is a caller ID funny tone you subscribe to for $1.95 per month.

Once you are tired of it I defy anyone to be able to turn the darn thing off!

The web site tells you to click on 'turn off' tab . . that does NOT exist in 'My Profile'.
The 2 Help Lines cannot be accessed at all. An 8 min wait before I was terminated . . with a call cost too. The basic Menu options one must wade through takes 8 mins!!.
The Text to Stop option takes your text message and charges you . .  but returns as 'failed' . .once again it costs YOU.

I would strongly advise people to avoid web based downloads from supposedly reputable companies unless the 'out' option is easy to access.

The local Video store proprietor would welcome your visit and business and at least you know your money is going to a local who wants to work and feed himself and his family.




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I call them 'Big MudPuddle' . .  

I signed up for a test month Mobile Phone 'Ctone' . . it is a caller ID funny tone you subscribe to for $1.95 per month.

Once you are tired of it I defy anyone to be able to turn the darn thing off!

The web site tells you to click on 'turn off' tab . . that does NOT exist in 'My Profile'.
The 2 Help Lines cannot be accessed at all. An 8 min wait before I was terminated . . with a call cost too. The basic Menu options one must wade through takes 8 mins!!.
The Text to Stop option takes your text message and charges you . .  but returns as 'failed' . .once again it costs YOU.

I would strongly advise people to avoid web based downloads from supposedly reputable companies unless the 'out' option is easy to access.

The local Video store proprietor would welcome your visit and business and at least you know your money is going to a local who want to work and feed himself and his family.



Yeah, 'cause ringtones totally have everything to do with BigPond. And BigPond's downloads are awesome. I get everything through there. The money gets paid to the artist, it costs you half the price of buying the CD through some rip-off store, and you can even choose the actual songs you want.
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Yeah, 'cause ringtones totally have everything to do with BigPond.  .


They do now . . C Tones is a main feature of the Big Pond site and will be promoted vigorously to teens for the big rip-off .




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I admit I have used illegal programs to download movies and music, but really whos going to stop us downloading it? There are billions around the world searching up illegal downloads every hour.



That's beside the point.  As a honest person I abhor being told that!  


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That's beside the point.  As a honest person I abhor being told that!  


It is annoying . . but when one reaps what one sows . . ha ha ha ah  . .when the TROJANS hit!!      

Europe has court dates set for small downloaders who have been stealing . .and police are able to track who gets what from where too . .we have no privacy . .but neither do the thieves . .at least that is a comfort.    




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A con with internet piracy is the spywear and crap too.



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Oh yeah, only if using XP or Vista!



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A con with internet piracy is the spywear and crap too.


If you're doing something illegal you deserve it.


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It is annoying . . but when one reaps what one sows . . ha ha ha ah  . .when the TROJANS hit!!      

Europe has court dates set for small downloaders who have been stealing . .and police are able to track who gets what from where too . .we have no privacy . .but neither do the thieves . .at least that is a comfort.    



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Oh yeah, only if using XP or Vista!



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Hey, if you're behind the times, it's your own fault.


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We do too.  I think we've seen the whole store though.  Our local one has gone to the dogs.


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On topic again...

If you go to a video store and remove the entire DVD set of the Star Wars movies without paying for it, it's theft, therefore you are a thief and a criminal.

If you go online and and download all the Star Wars movies without paying for them, it's theft, therefore you are a thief and a criminal.


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I admit I have used illegal programs to download movies and music, but really whos going to stop us downloading it? There are billions around the world searching up illegal downloads every hour.


There are over 6 billion people in the world. I doubt that all of them have access to the internet, let alone computers, and that all of them are pirates.
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Music industry pushes ISPs for action on illegal downloads

The Australian music industry has approached Internet service providers (ISP) to penalise people who illegally download music.

Under the plan, record labels would identify Internet customers who are illegally downloading and service providers would give them three warnings before cutting off their phone and Internet connections.

Recent research shows that 18 per cent of Australians regularly use filesharing programs like Limewire to illegally download songs from the Internet.

The general manager of the music industry's piracy investigation unit, Sabiene Heindl, says the crackdown is needed because Australians illegally download about one billion songs every year.

"The Australian music industry would prefer not to sue individuals who are engaged in illegal file sharing," she said.

"That said, it may well be that at some stage in the future we will have no option but to take those measures.

"At this stage we think that this is a proposal that will be effective and provide an effective deterrent."

Ms Heindl says several smaller Internet providers have already expressed support for the plan but the piracy unit is still waiting on a response from the Internet industry association.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1897439.htm

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Music industry pushes ISPs for action on illegal downloads
. . . . . "The Australian music industry would prefer not to sue individuals who are engaged in illegal file sharing," she said.
. . . . . . .


The reason for that is that most 'filesharers' are kids of 13-17 . .you can't sue them . .and they are the most 'savvy' at building/using fileshare sites.  




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Oh the poor little music industry bless their hearts. Thirty bucks for a CD and they throw the recording artists a few peanuts. Copy protected CD's, DRM, perhaps if they allowed the customer to listen to music however they liked once the music was paid for said customer might not want to sidestep them.




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YouTube facing football lawsuit  

YouTube has denied copyright infringement in the past
The English Premier League is to sue video-sharing site YouTube for alleged copyright infringement.
The football organisation said YouTube had "knowingly misappropriated" its intellectual property by encouraging footage to be viewed on its site.

Google-owned YouTube already faces a $1bn (Ł501m) lawsuit from media giant Viacom, accusing it of illegally showing clips from its TV shows.

YouTube has denied those claims, saying the suit threatens the internet.

'Exploitation'

The English Premier League and US music publisher Bourne launched the legal action in New York, claiming unspecified damages.

They said YouTube had consciously encouraged people to view content on its site in order to raise its profile, violating the material's commercial value.

"Defendants which own and operate YouTube have knowingly misappropriated and exploited this valuable property for their own gain without payment or licence to the owners of the intellectual property," the lawsuit said.


The Premier League wants to protect its commercial value

The commercial value of the Premier League has risen spectacularly in recent years, making protection of its rights a priority for the organisation.

The combined TV, radio and internet rights to show live games and highlights over the next three years fetched Ł2.7bn in a series of auctions.

Despite its huge popularity and commercial success, YouTube has attracted criticism from media organisations for the access it provides to sought-after content.

Viacom, which owns MTV and Nickelodeon, claimed that 160,000 unauthorised clips of TV shows had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.

One internet expert said YouTube was coming under increasing pressure over the issue of copyright and he expected it to eventually settle with its various plaintiffs.

"There is absolutely no doubt that an awful lot of content is in breach of copyright," said media consultant Bob Eggington.

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Viacom, which owns MTV and Nickelodeon, claimed that 160,000 unauthorised clips of TV shows had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.


Pppft. Get over it.

I think CLIPS of TV shows should be legal, as long as it's a few seconds to no more than a few minutes in length. But I can understand if they'd be angry over people posting up COMPLETE episodes of TV shows.

Besides, MTV and Nickelodeon haven't produced anything worthwhile in YEARS.
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Australian jailed in US for Internet piracy
By Washington correspondent Michael Rowland
Posted 3 hours 53 minutes ago

An Australian who ran one of the world's most infamous Internet piracy operations has been sentenced to more than four years in a US jail.

Hew Raymond Griffiths ran the piracy group, Drink or Die, from his home at Bateau Bay on the New South Wales central coast.

He was extradited to the US earlier this year to face charges relating to the theft of nearly $60 million worth of software, movies and music.

A judge in the US state of Virginia has sentenced Griffiths to 51 months in jail.

US District Attorney Chuck Rosenburg has hailed the conviction, saying that whether committed with a gun or a keyboard, theft is theft.

Mr Rosenburg says those engaging in Internet piracy are now on notice the US can and will reach them, wherever they live.


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Suprnova has been down for some years due to some heavy pressure from the copyright lobby. The former owner sloncek donated suprnova to The Pirate Bay - and as you know, we like to kick a** and bow for noone! These first weeks/months are currently classed as a beta test. Finally, some words for non-internet loving companies (MPAA): This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future.


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Jury rules against woman in music downloading case
Posted 27 minutes ago
File sharing: The woman had 1,702 songs in an online folder (file photo). (ABC News)

In the first US trial to challenge the illegal downloading of music on the Internet, a single mother from Minnesota has been ordered to pay more than $US220,000 ($247,000) for sharing 24 songs online.

Jammie Thomas, 30, is the first among more than 26,000 people sued by the world's most powerful recording companies to refuse a settlement after being slapped with a lawsuit by the Recording Industry of America and six major music labels.

She turned down an offer to pay a few thousands dollars in fines and instead took the case to court.

Unlike some who insist on the right to share files over the internet, Thomas said she was wrongfully targeted by SafeNet - a contractor employed by the recording industry to patrol the internet for copyrighted material.

Her lawyer said earlier this week that she had racked up some $US60,000 in legal fees because she refused to be bullied.

And while Thomas insisted that she had never downloaded or uploaded music, her lawyer tried to convince jurors there was no way to prove who had uploaded songs on the Kazaa file sharing network.

A jury took just five hours to decide that evidence provided by the music labels showed otherwise and found Thomas guilty of copyright infringement, court records show.

Thomas - an employee of the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe, an Indian tribe - was ordered to pay a $US9,250 fine for each of 24 shared songs cited in the case, including Godsmack's "Spiral", Destiny's Child's "Bills, Bills, Bills" and Sara McLachlan's "Building a Mystery".

It could have been a lot worse.

Had the record companies sued her for all 1,702 songs found in the online folder, the fine could have run in the millions.

"This does send a message, I hope, that downloading and distributing our recordings is not OK," Richard Gabriel, the lead attorney for the music companies, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

Mr Gabriel said jurors had not explained how they had come up with a fine of $US9,250 per song out of sentencing guidelines which range from $US750 to $US150,000.

Thomas and her lawyer declined to comment as they exited the courthouse.

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I wonder if people would make excuses for bankrobbers and other criminals who steal like they do in this report.  A thief is a thief, no matter what is stolen.  Pathetic, petty criminals!  

Video piracy downloads growing
DARREN OSBORNE, SYDNEY
January 02, 2008 09:30pm

THE ILLEGAL downloading of videos is continuing to grow, with transforming robots and superheroes topping the list for the most downloaded videos of 2007.

Television series Heroes was last year's most popular TV program with 2,439,154 downloads, according to BitTorrent search engine and directory website Mininova.
Rounding out the top five were hit shows Top Gear, Battlestar Galactica, Lost and Prison Break.

In the feature film category, Transformers topped the 2007 list with 569,259 downloads.

Other popular film downloads included Knocked Up, Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End and The Bourne Ultimatum.

Electronic Frontiers Australia chairman Dale Clapperton said he was not surprised by the continued level of video downloads, particularly in Australia.

"A lot of downloads take place in countries like Australia, because when a show comes out in the United States, it might be 12 months before it arrives here," he said. "The internet provides a medium for getting it a lot earlier."

Mr Clapperton believes many broadcasters and film studios are still holding on to traditional distribution models.

"The entertainment companies need to realise they are working in the global marketplace," he said.

"They are still very much wedded to the old school models. This isn't the 1970s or '80s when the individual would be content to wait. The fact is that people don't like waiting."

A comment on the website TorrentFreak.com highlights the frustration experienced by viewers, particularly in Australia.

"Its (sic) clear that Top Gear is number two because the rest of the world wants to watch it when the UK does," WarmforyourForm said.

"In Australia we get to watch it 2-3 years later, by which time that new and exciting car . . . has already been replaced by something newer and more exciting."

Some broadcasters and film studios appear to be changing their ways, with several television shows "fast-tracked" within days of screening in the U.S., and blockbuster movies being premiered globally on the same day.

"It's not uncommon for them (big blockbusters) to go into worldwide release on the same day," Mr Clapperton said.

"They know that if they release in the U.S. and then wait several weeks, it's likely people will be buying it from a flea market before it is released elsewhere."

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22999571-910,00.html

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"In Australia we get to watch it 2-3 years later, by which time that new and exciting car . . . has already been replaced by something newer and more exciting."


So let's go steal a newly released car then!  Moron!  


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I wonder if people would make excuses for bankrobbers and other criminals who steal like they do in this report.  A thief is a thief, no matter what is stolen.  Pathetic, petty criminals!  

Actually the fine in NSW for piracy is probably higher than stealing a car. THAT'S RIGHT IN NSW YOU STEAL A CAR IT JUST COSTS YOU A FEW $$$




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I download tv shows, mainly because most of the stuff shown on tv these days is not worth watching. There are some really good Canadian shows that don't make it to Australia, I am not so much into mainstream tv, you can only watch so many episodes of CSI and I detest reality tv. So I search the internet for unusual foreign shows.

I rarely listen to music, so I don't download it. I have an extensive DVD & video collection. Which I have collected over many years and every computer game I have I bought and paid for.















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I download tv shows, mainly because most of the stuff shown on tv these days is not worth watching. There are some really good Canadian shows that don't make it to Australia, I am not so much into mainstream tv, you can only watch so many episodes of CSI and I detest reality tv. So I search the internet for unusual foreign shows.

Good bloody point! If the US networks had 1/2 a brain they'd be making coin by allowing people to download shows after they aired and I don't mean any (cr)Apple junk, You download a DivX file, you can watch it on your PC, media centre, portable device......





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RIAA's website is wiped clean due to an SQL exploit someone found and shared with just about everyone. If only the RIAA hadn't made so many enemies....






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Feel Free to Download 25 Million Songs
After a decade fighting to stop illegal file-sharing, the music industry will give fans today what they have always wanted: an unlimited supply of free and legal songs. With CD sales in free fall and legal downloads yet to fill the gap, the music industry has reluctantly embraced the file-sharing technology that threatened to destroy it. Qtrax, a digital service announced today, promises a catalogue of more than 25 million songs that users can download to keep, free and with no limit on the number of tracks. The service has been endorsed by the very same record companies - including EMI, Universal Music and Warner Music – that have chased file-sharers through the courts in a doomed attempt to prevent piracy. The gamble is that fans will put up with a limited amount of advertising around the Qtrax website’s jukebox in return for authorised use of almost every song available. The service will use the “peer-to-peer” network, which contains not just hit songs but rarities and live tracks from the world’s leading artists.

Nor is a lack of compatibility with the iPod player expected to put fans off. Apple is unlikely to allow tracks downloaded from its rival to be compatible with iPods, but, while the iPod is the most popular music player, it has not succeeded in dominating the market: sales of the iPod account for 50 million out of 130 million total digital player sales. Qtrax has also spoken of an “iPod solution”, to be announced in April. Qtrax files contain Digital Rights Management software, allowing the company to see how many times a song has been downloaded and played. Artists, record companies and publishers will be paid in proportion to the popularity of their music, while also taking a cut of advertising revenues. The Qtrax team, which spent five years working on the system, promised a “game-changing” intervention in the declining recorded music market when the service was presented at the Midem music industry convention in Cannes.

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I've read that the Qtrax thing hasn't gone down to well and Universal Music have pulled out.

Now with downloading music I tend to get frustrated when I can't find a song through i-Tunes so I try and find it elsewhere (as some of my tastes in music are not too popular (eg Japanese Pop). I've given up on buying CD's now as well, all they seem to stock now is albums and I don't wanna pay $30 for an album that I only want to listen to one song for that'll entertain me for about a week and then I never listen to it again.

As for the "stars" they get more money from advertising/endorsing products, tours, appearances, etc.

With TV shows and movies, I don't download them, but I do understand why someone would want to or stream them off YouTube (within my reasons). Why wait 6 months for House to come out onto TV here, by then somethings might be slipped out in the media, you've read a synopsis on the net, etc. Its because of today's society wanting everything to be now, no waiting, I just want it now mentality. An idea for Hollywood could be a global channel  so everyone gets shows at the same time, and with that having global release dates for movies. I know I got pissed off that I had to wait a month after the US release to watch Sweeny Todd in Australia.

But that's my little rant.
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This is very painful and damaging situation for those website owner whose sites has been banned, any one who know how to quit from backlist from the major search engine pls help me.


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You can try looking into the tor and privoxy programs.  I run Linux but I think at least one of them has the equivalent name for a program that routes you through a network of people participating and the end result is supposed to be a more annonymous proxy service.  

The other thing would be to use an annonymous proxy directly either by setting it up in your web browser, or less effective to hit sites like hidemyass.com  

In the case of all these solutions, it's more trouble than its worth because these sites will get blocked as well and new ones will pop up.  It something that sounds like a pain to stay on top of.   The best low maintanence solution i the first one but page loads are so slow that it's not worth it... its usually used for torrenting where that doesn't matter.  Also, it has it's own immediate problems that would take too long to go into here.

There's really nothing that can be done other than policy change... and I did come accross... I'll have to get back to you... if you have a web page then you can add a html snippet that will grab only a peice of censored news and display it, thus avoiding the censors.   It's meant to act as a political tool I guess.  I'll try to find it but if I don't in the next 10 minutes before Heros comes on then I'll probably forget... and then you'lle have to find it on your own by linking to it through however I ended up there once, starting from here http://www.stallman.org/ <--Founder of the GNU project, author of the GPL, author of the first GNU compiler, and actually so left wing that even I think he's nuts, so you might like him.


EDIT:  Here http://irrepressible.info/addcontent
I think its geared more toward other things going on in the world but its still a good thing to embed in a page.


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hi friend !
Thank for all of that i will try this method to avoid it. Thanks again.


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Theres a firefox add on that you can hit...
Here it is actually.  This will save you the trouble of setting up software on your computer to hit the tor proxy network https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5833
My flash player stopped working after I'd messed up some shared libraries and thought I was hitting a censored page already, but it turned out not to be the case.  Anyway, I was testing out the tor network in the process, and I always seem to end up with the same exit point, which isn't ideal because it can then be filtered, plus, if you're concern is pornography filtering, I was ending up with end points in Germany, and their porn censorship is already stronger than what it is here.

The biggest drawaback to any method, is that javascripts can pull your IP address out of your local machine, so most of these things disable javascript.  In the case of just wanting to get sites through the filters that are implemented at the level of the ISP or whatever it isn't necisarry to have that turned off, and it takes away from web experience.  You'de only be worried about it in countries where you'de actually be worried about being arrested if your ip address was logged remotely as being on a site.  It seems like here the issue is just wanting to proxy a website through the filter by making it look like the proxy is the webpage.  The side effect is the changing of one's own IP address.

Another, and much better way, is if you have friends overseas, you can have them set up some sort of proxy on their own webspace so that server tunnels everything through it to you and the only thing the filter ever sees is the proxy address, then changing your address isn't necisarry.  There's a lot of issues with doing this for the person involved, such as legality for them, their contract with their web space provider, for example most here don't allow servers on non commercial accounts.


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Here's an interesting fact.
A lot of companies require their employees to encrypt data that may be considered sensitive for whatever reason.  There's much more than what one would expect and stealing a laptop can be... well what if rival software companies start stealing each other's code for example?  Lawsuits over software patents go into the billions and have even been allegedly used for the very purpose of bankrupting rivals.  That's the obvious example.  Everything is done on computers now though.  Engineering, research data, your medical records, criminal records, the schematics for the computer you're at right now were made on a computer.
A lot of people are pissed off now, because as law in some countries, airport security makes it a crime not to provide (and in some cases to have simply forgotten) passwords for encrypted files.

A lot of people will think it's a petty thing to be concerned about, but we as people should have a right to privacy despite how little of an intrusion it may seem.  For some, the concern is one of paranoia over the future of an entire corporation, for me it's stuff like pictures of my wife naked month by month as she went along with her pregnancy.  Some people log their MSN conversation and would rather not have some asshole browsing their conversations on their lunch break.  I've been harrassed at customs in the US and have no doubt that a lot of people would think it's funny to send off fatigued and impatient travellers to be strip searched.  I'm quite sure that has happened to people, so it only stands to reason that files are seized and planes are missed while hard drives are cloned.  I hate abuse of police power.


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This is very painful and damaging situation for those website owner whose sites has been banned, any one who know how to quit from backlist from the major search engine pls help me.


Why was your site banned?  


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If you wanna kick around for debate about the guys motivations, you should have moved it to the news thread where the last one got locked.


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Commentary from Bigpond, Iinet and Internode.
Some of this will address the suspicions you have, Paula, about the intentions behind people who care about it.  
As far as people with money making websites go, such as this one that you call yourself a mediator of, it was only touched on for one sentance, but most websites these days aren't on independant servers, but share rent space with many other sites on the same server.  One bad apple can block over 200 legitimate sites.



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Here's a flow chart that explains a huge problem with DVD sales



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lol the first method doesn't show the person searching for a decent quality file. probably having wasted time downloading a crappy version first or one that's subtitled and then having to burn it on disc if you don't have usb output but anyway I get you point.

Honestly now I'd just prefer to buy the dvd or blu-ray version because I can't be bothered downloading it unless I really wanted to see a film before it comes out in cinema. I think some blu-rays now also have the movie in avi format which you can easily rip and transfer on pc. I think this goes straight to the film but not sure.
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Aquamonkey, I've long been aware of that irony.

And these intrusive copyright warnings and trailers are worsening with the more recent DVD releases out there...

(e.g. Copyright warning > Movie studio ident > Production company ident > Australian-made copyright warning > Several movie trailers > Dolby logo > Animated menu > Menu transition > Another copyright warning > Feature presentation )

Sometimes I feel like I'm being punished for doing the right thing. What gives?

Warner Bros. seems to be among the least intrusive from my experience. All they ever seem to insert is a "Warner Bros." ident clip at the start of the DVD, and that's that. No copyright warnings until after the feature presentation. I don't know if this is still the case with them, though.

Really, pirated shows/movies are devoid of copyright warnings anyway, so why exactly are the paying customers forced to endure this crap time and time again?!
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Record labels win LimeWire copyright case


The makers of file-sharing software LimeWire have been found liable for infringing the music copyrights of 13 major record companies.

In her ruling, US District Judge Kimba Wood agreed with the record companies that LimeWire and its founder Mark Gorton were liable for infringement and engaging in unfair competition.

New York-based LimeWire was created in 2000 and describes it as the world's most popular peer-to-peer file-sharing service, with more than 50 million monthly users.

According to a NDP Group survey, these users accounted for 58 per cent of all peer-to-peer users in 2009.

"The evidence demonstrates that LimeWire optimised LimeWire's features to ensure that users can download digital recordings, the majority of which are protected by copyright, and that LimeWire assisted users in committing infringement," Judge Wood said.

She added Mr Gorton knew about the copyright infringement.

The lawsuit was filed in August 2006 by Arista, Atlantic, BMG Music, Capital, Elektra, Interscope, LaFace, Motown, Priority, Sony BMG, UMG, Virgin and Warner Brothers.

LimeWire chief executive George Searle says the company "strongly opposes" Judge Wood's ruling and is committed to working with the recording industry to develop products that help music listeners.

Recording Industry of Association of America (RIAA) chief executive Mitch Bainwol says the court's decision is "an important milestone in the creative community's fight to reclaim the internet as a platform for legitimate commerce".

"The court has sent a clear signal to those who think they can devise and profit from a piracy scheme that will escape accountability," he said.

Judge Wood set a June 1 date for further proceedings in the case.

- Reuters

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