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cactus
March 22, 2007, 5:56pm Report to Moderator
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Every time I visit Sydney I use public transport and never had a problem or complaint except for some graffiti.  My biggest angst was no public transport to some areas.

Perhaps your standards are too high or mine too low.


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Every time I visit Sydney I use public transport and never had a problem or complaint except for some graffiti.  My biggest angst was no public transport to some areas.

Perhaps your standards are too high or mine too low.

Well going from to work and back every day my hopes are for a clean, airconditioned on time (that means not running more than 5 minutes late by railcorp standards) train that isn't 35+ years old. On the would be nice list is for the 45 minute trip not to take 55 minutes as is does in the "slower, more reliable [insert have a wank emoticon] timetable, and not to have some wannabe cop in a nazi like uniform "providing security", and by that I mean checking tickets

High taxes and increasing ticket fares do tend to breed high expectations, as a casual passenger your tickets are most likely subsidised by those of us going to work on the damn things and paying $$$$$$$. If you're a child, pensioner or disabled it's a certainty


      


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The frustrations you endure daily are not just on trains.  Waiting, waiting, is everywhere: in the supermarket checkout, in line at the bank or Maccas, in traffic, on the phone.  Impatientness is a state of mind and as such can be adjusted for ones benefit.

I think the underlying problem is population overload.  The population is growing quicker than we can cope and we have been unable to adapt to the change.  We should manage our attitude or manage the population, and perhaps a lot of these annoyances will disappear, or at least be more reasonable.


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But Debnam will not fix any of this. To even fix a fraction of what he has promised he will have to bring in higher taxes just as Greiner did. Here's just some of the stuff Greiner left Labor to prove that this is the fault of all parties.

Peter Debnam is now getting advice from Greiner. This is Greiner's record.

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Sacked thousand of workers providing public service in NSW that saw the worse service obligation delivery of an State in Australia.

Left more than $12 billion of debt and increased taxes by $10 billion a year.

Left NSW on a Moody’s ratings agency credit watch, threatening to withdraw the state’s AAA credit rating.

Six deficits in a row, cumulatively worth $5.5 billion.

11 schools were shut down in just his first year.

He sacked 2,500 teaching positions and 800 ancillary staff in his first year.

Electricity charges rose 9.8%, adding $48 to the average bill.

Public transport fares went up an average 12.5% in his first year.

Taxes on average rose in each year of his term.

He closed, downgraded, privatised or attempted to close 30 hospitals and the number of public hospital beds was cut by 7,500.


Debnam will just be a worse version of Greiner, but even worst still he will bring in the looney Christian right to power. At least Greiner was a moderate.


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This "looney" lobby group has a lot of clandestine power in the US and it is starting to gain momentum here in Australia.  Very frightening stuff.
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Very frightening indeed.  And even more frightening in Gympie in Queensland  - This is not a place I'd like to live.


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And everyone has a gun.  

It's like the American South except it's up here in Queensland.  Maybe it's the humidity that does it.
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The frustrations you endure daily are not just on trains.  Waiting, waiting, is everywhere: in the supermarket checkout, in line at the bank or Maccas, in traffic, on the phone.  Impatientness is a state of mind and as such can be adjusted for ones benefit.

It's not even close to the same thing. You waiting in line at slack macs often and told their won't be another cheese burger for twenty minutes, ask the girl at the counter who says "howdya expect me ta know mate I don't run the place, call 131 500!"

Yes their are delays in many places, but in the public service there are delays and people whoo should be doing a job standing round scratching their arse. Start choppping them, their are enough indians flying in to replace the ones currently wearing the uniform, it's a two day training coarse and you don't need to know much engalish



      


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Nice publicity stunt Kev

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VIETNAM veterans have been offended by Labor leader Kevin Rudd's request for a "fake" dawn service so he can commemorate Anzac Day live on Channel Seven's breakfast show from Long Tan in Vietnam.

http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegraph/story/0,22049,21520323-5001021,00.html


      


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He only got the idea from USA media who want Beijing Olympic events to be timed for prime time night viewing in America . .so athletes can 'suck it up' and be ready to race at 5am to fit in with USA peak viewing.  




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The Tele as usual got it all wrong and its a load of bull. Why does the right wing media always have to invent things to belittle the left. It shows what is so wrong with the right. In fact the Vietnam Vets are pissed off at the Tele from what I'm reading.

Here is what really happened but don't expect the tele to apologise to Rudd.

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SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT

Sorry for this special extra newsletter - but I feel a need to set the record straight.
Perhaps like you, I woke up on Easter Sunday this morning to see a screaming headline that we're somehow trying to undermine the Anzac spirit, by staging our own "dawn service" in Vietnam for Kevin Rudd's benefit. I couldn't believe it. The story was totally from left field.
I thought you deserved an explanation.
As you know, I've long had a passion to tell wartime stories. I think it's crucial that younger generations get an understanding of earlier sacrifices. It's for that reason we went to Kokoda last year.
It's for that same reason that we started talking to Vietnam veterans about visiting Long Tan this year. We were briefed at our office by a group of men who fought. They wanted us to travel with them. Remember, these were blokes who suffered a backlash when they returned from war. It's frankly about time that the media gave proper attention to their commemorations.
Just like last year - we spoke to both Kevin Rudd and Joe Hockey about travelling with us. Joe wanted to go - but already had commitments in his electorate. So instead, we invited Bronwyn Bishop, who agreed.
Never once was it seen as some attempt to win ratings. Anyone who understands our industry would know there are only very limited ratings on a public holiday anyway. This was about doing something special.
Our producers then started speaking to everyone they needed to about making it happen. And of course timings were discussed. It soon became apparent that time differences meant we couldn't show the dawn service live. Instead, we were planning to shoot elements of that so that everyone could see it on the news that night. As for Sunrise, we were briefed on a different tribute that happens year round at Long Tan. It's not a dawn service at all - but rather a small ceremony where veterans can pay their own respects. We agreed to consider showing that.
Despite what the paper had to say - we received no political pressure to move things around. Kevin Rudd and Bronwyn Bishop had no special requests. They were there for the veterans. It's as simple as that.
We also hadn't confirmed that the trip was going ahead. Despite our best intentions, broadcasting from Vietnam is no easy task. There were always going to be some major obstacles to overcome. Truth is, I suspect we won't be able to do it this year anyway.
For that reason, we'd committed to broadcasting this year's dawn service from Elephant Rock on the Gold Coast. We plan to do that commercial free and with the full support of the RSL. We'd told the paper about that plan so really aren't sure why this morning's story was as big as it was.
Anyway, I hope that clears it up. You would've been right to have concerns.
Cheers,
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So 'Kochie' is now the official media spokesman for seven, or was this just covering him? No surprises on the response though

For the record similar requests were made to Sydney and Athens Olympic committes.


      


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So 'Kochie' is now the official media spokesman for seven, or was this just covering him? No surprises on the response though

For the record similar requests were made to Sydney and Athens Olympic committes.

No aquamonkey, Adam Boland and Sunrise have made official repudiations, Kochie is just repeating that in their Sunrise family emails. The Vietnam vets involved have also backed up Adam Boland.

Why are you so ready to believe a right wing Murdoch paper that is known for its right wing leanings and for deliberately twisting or misrepresenting the facts?


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Well here is a turn up. I just heard on the news that the Howard government has taken control of this year's Long Tan dawn service.


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Well here is a turn up. I just heard on the news that the Howard government has taken control of this year's Long Tan dawn service.

Which was in the original news story, nice to see you were paying attention. Though since it was reported on news maybe they're not......?


      


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