x452 you're the one who can never change your opinion. I'd rather you keep your big mouth shut than throw insults my way
Dont give them the satisfaction. The more desperate their issues become the more sticks, stones and names that will come flying youre way. They are so set in stone in their ways that demeaning you somehow justifies their cause. Remember it is they who are in the minority and who has failed in the last three elections about as dismally as britneys last haircut.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” ~ Winston Churchill
boomslanger I work in the medical community it WAS NOT accepted, bulk billing changes put in after the last election (promises made during the election) such as Medicare plus bulk billing insentive items have nothing to do with anything the ALP have come up with. And Medical industry aside the public, the one's who chose which bunch of liars get control laughed at Medicare Gold. The only problem with healthcare is as Mike Gibson put it the governments minister for health is the person most in need of a heart transplant!
Oh on scare tactics lets look at the ALP's constant bey-atching about declining bulk billing rates!!
Being in the medical community you should be completely anti-Howard, unless you are in the employ or management of a private practice or medical provider, then that would explain your stance.
The AMA reservedly backed it under the proviso Labor could prove it was sustainable but because of Howard's scare campaign that was never going to happen. It is Howard who is the master of scare and like his little puppet you just repeat whatever he comes out with, even his saying it is Labor who is running a fear campaign when all they are doing is putting the truth out there.
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The evidence shows it is the rich who are benefiting most from MedicarePlus, writes Charles Livingstone, senior research fellow in the Faculty of Health Sciences at La Trobe University..' The truth about Abbott's safety net. The most affluent parts of Australia have consumed most of the safety net payments. The cost of the safety net is blowing out to 250 million or more, double the original price tag. Only those with enough money to pay the bill go to see a specialist so its no surprise to hear that affluent liberal electorates spent most of the safety net money.
The safety net covers those who spend big on specialists but offers no control on costs versus the ALP policy which delivers free care to the neediest. (Bob McMullan trawls through Treasury health figures)
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While most articles focus on who promised what there is also some interesting analysis. Kenneth Davidson in the Age: 'The Howard changes to the health system are taking Australia rapidly down the road towards the US health system where the nation spends 13-14 per cent of GDP on health and has worse health outcomes in terms of infant mortality, longevity and morbidity than most OECD countries.' Ultimately, experts agree that a national review of the health system, investigating cost-shifting, duplication and the missed opportunities of our disconnected health system will move Australia closer to the accessible and affordable system foremost in voters' minds, say Ruth Pollard and Mark Metherell. Even the Australian, September 24, 2004, thinks, 'Health system needs a vision.' [quote]Public hospitals and the Doctors who work in them welcome Medicare Gold
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The final word goes to Charles Livingstone writing in The Age, "This is a slightly surreal election campaign for many reasons, but one of the more diverting is the spectacle of the Howard Government trying to outspend the ALP on Medicare."
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Catholic health backs Medicare Gold saying that it is a fair and practical solution. Pensioners and health care providers have welcomed the Federal Labor Party's plan to pay for hospital care for elderly Australians. The Liberals are keen to pour cold water on the whole idea. Abbott criticises Medicare Gold, says it can't be done and blames public hospital problems on the States. Howard says Medicare gold scheme will blow out hospital waiting lists.
...and dozens of similar articles. It was only the private health system that canned it. And talking about that, what about Howard's failed health policy, it has just given millions into the pockets of rich private practice owners, created a two tier system and against his promise it would decrease medical costs they keep going up as the private operators continue to skim more from the taxpayers. And I hear there is another hefty health insurance premium rise coming up.
American Health here we come:
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Dont give them the satisfaction. The more desperate their issues become the more sticks, stones and names that will come flying youre way. They are so set in stone in their ways that demeaning you somehow justifies their cause. Remember it is they who are in the minority and who has failed in the last three elections about as dismally as britneys last haircut.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, and you confirm it by ending in belittlement, always the first and last resort of the right. The Liberals are dishing it out in droves at the moment in squeaky and panicky little voices as they are being found out for the deceivers and scare merchants they have always been.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Its getting exciting in here isnt it. My squeaky tiny panicky voice can harldy contain itself.
You must admit it was a pretty bad haircut.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” ~ Winston Churchill
The evidence shows it is the rich who are benefiting most from MedicarePlus, writes Charles Livingstone, senior research fellow in the Faculty of Health Sciences at La Trobe University..' The truth about Abbott's safety net. The most affluent parts of Australia have consumed most of the safety net payments. The cost of the safety net is blowing out to 250 million or more, double the original price tag. Only those with enough money to pay the bill go to see a specialist so its no surprise to hear that affluent liberal electorates spent most of the safety net money.
Well bugger me with a fishfork a senior research fellow would be have a hard time with the cash to go to the doctors.
The Medicare Plus scheme for starters provides additional payment to ALL doctors who bulk bill.
Finding a doctor who bulk bills Now pay attention cause this is the tricky bit. If you are living in a high income area say for example Sydney's North Shore your doctor is not going to bulk bill, you're going to pay atleast $40, get an invoice printed and you can take it into Medicare. If you live in the Western Suburbs, you'll walk out to the receptionist, hand over your Medicare Card and eventually Medicare Australia, the only outfit in Canberra doing less than parliament House, deposit the money into their bank account. We could always bring in details about electronic bulk billing, how an entry level computer package would set you back about $500 and the rebate from the government for practice management systems is $500 (minimum) but lets keep a lid on that!
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rich private practice owners
What as opposed to "mega filthy" rich health companies like Sonic!
You want to talk about rip offs in Health look how Morris Dilemma and the merry-go-round of ministers can't keep hospitals open long enough for an ambulance to pull up
I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment, because it will never come again. - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
You're probably right. Howard will probably win the next election although the Republicans in the U.S. and Labor in the U.K. will probably get voted out, what does that tell you about us?
Those with your way of thinking have been ruling the world for a very long time, and you wonder why the world is so messed up?
The other guy hasn't even had a chance. It's time the more "central thinkers" had a go.
It's interesting how right-wingers see everyone else as left, they don't see centrists. However, those of us in the centre see right as well as left wing extremes. I wonder who the balanced ones are.
I'd rather you keep your big mouth shut than throw insults my way
I actually didn't mean to insult you. I was talking about Bolt and then drew the correlation between some of his arguments and yours. If you find it insulting to agree with Bolt then that's your problem.
I think Im pretty liberal on most issues( not the party). I support stem cell research, am pro choice for abortion and support gay marriage, but nobody seems interested in these subjects. People base who you are in where you stand in the war on terror usually. Dont think Im anti labor. I liked some off Kim Beazly's thinking and thought he would have made a good, humble prime minister. I voted for Mike Rann in my home state although I dont agree with everything he says and he is labor. Unfortunately what we say in these pages is only looking through a periscope of what we are really like. I don't hate you're opinion I just give you my indifference.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” ~ Winston Churchill
I think Im pretty liberal on most issues( not the party). I support stem cell research, am pro choice for abortion and support gay marriage, but nobody seems interested in these subjects. People base who you are in where you stand in the war on terror usually. Dont think Im anti labor. I liked some off Kim Beazly's thinking and thought he would have made a good, humble prime minister. I voted for Mike Rann in my home state although I dont agree with everything he says and he is labor. Unfortunately what we say in these pages is only looking through a periscope of what we are really like. I don't hate you're opinion I just give you my indifference.
I think I pretty much see them all as a bunch of complete ********! They all get paid a bucketload, get driven around in big cars & will retire and live of the public $$$ for the rest of their lives whenever they fall to far from grace, if you think one political party will stand up for joe average forget it.
That said while I don't agree with all of the liberals policies I do believe they can run the country better than Labor could. Hell I've said it before I'll say it a million more times the only place Labor has run NSW is into the ground, why risk them running the country
I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment, because it will never come again. - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
He didn't have one hell of a lot to say in parliament today
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He reminds me of a little nerdy kid.
Yeah but, look at Howard! It's a wonder either of them make it to work with their lunch money
I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment, because it will never come again. - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
He didn't have one hell of a lot to say in parliament today
No wonder in light of the David Burke affair. The honeymoon is over.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” ~ Winston Churchill
No wonder in light of the David Burke affair. The honeymoon is over.
That's what I was referring to, didn't even raise his head. Are the ALP ninjas preparing to take out another leader? Is crean up for another run?
I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment, because it will never come again. - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
No wonder in light of the David Burke affair. The honeymoon is over.
Although what Rudd did was wrong in meeting with Burke, I don't see what the huge fuss is about. Is there evidence that Rudd made a deal with Burke?
The country's up in arms over a storm in a tea cup. This is small potatoes compared to the corruption that was AWB or the lies that was Iraq. Just goes to show the Liberals are better at being shady than Labor!
Speaking of corruption, Howard's all but decided that we're going Nuclear, it has nothing to do with what the public wants and everything to do with the deals he's made with his millionaire (nuclear industry) businessmen buddies.
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