Quoted from Matt

Coz joe average can't relate to either of them. Obama is african american and Hilary is a woman. joe average in america is usually an anglo-saxon christian/jewish (if you wanna go by stereotypes).

50% of Americans are women; why can't they relate to Hillary!

Quoted from MeanDean

The minority vote is a huge thing btw.  The stereotype may be white, but that's inflated by the fact that it's where the money is in the society.

Most Democrats and Republicans will vote for their Political Party regardless of who the candidate is.  The swingers or “minority” voters are really the ones who decide the election.  Democracy, as we have it, is really a government of the minority.  What Obama and McCain have to do is determine which minority group to pitch their campaign to.  A good example here is the racist vote courted by Howard with the “children overboard” deception.  I doubt very much Howard would have been re-elected without the racist vote.

I meant the minority vote being non-white voters.  They are usually Democrat votes in the US.

There's really a lot of variables in this election which makes it hard to predict.

Quoted from Zero

50% of Americans are women; why can't they relate to Hillary!

Hmmm I'll just change this lol.

They can relate, but most probably don't vote.

Edit again:

I do stand corrected thanks MD. Perhaps I should shut my trap now.

You do sound sexist though.

I could only find stats up to 1996
http://www.eac.gov/clearinghou.....chment_download/file


Here's the site if anyone's interested http://www.eac.gov/clearinghouse/voter-turnout-and-statistics/

Quoted from MeanDean

I meant the minority vote being non-white voters.  They are usually Democrat votes in the US. There's really a lot of variables in this election which makes it hard to predict.

If this were the case then these minority groups wouldn't be so minor.  The age of ethnic purity is long gone; it disappeared when our ancestors left Africa in search of the brave new world.  Perhaps the white Anglo Christian is itself now the minority in North America.

While the Anglo Christian still dominates rural and central States the other ethnic groups tend to congregate in slum like communities in major metropolitan areas - There is a logical reason for this: to protect themselves from perceived threats from other ethnic groups including  Anglo Christians.

If McCain feels that they are going to lose the election early in the campaign, I’m sure Barack’s ethnicity will be used by the Republicans to whip up some ethnic hysteria.  If the racist card doesn’t work, then we can confidently assume that the American people are a lot more discerning then the rest of us give them credit for.

Racism is a thing that happens in a bizarre way in the US.  After growing into an adult there and then living here for 6 years, I can't fit into the racist norm of either country and find each one weird for the reason of the other one, if that makes sense, so I sort of have to concede that I've lost insight to the extent that you're talking about.  I would have once felt I had it but now I'm confused about it.

I will comment though, that Africans didn't generally come in search of a new life, they were brought there the same way sheep are shipped to the Middle East, to serve as slaves.  Also, I almost went looking for statistics earlier but I'm not sure if I'd find unbiased stuff, as far as white people being a minority goes.  It was a real fear when I was in high school that by this date it would be the case. "The Mexicans are going to take over."  I had a friend who was sort of a poser white supremecist, and that was the thing he'd be on about.  I don't know if it was true or not.  It may well have been true to say at the time given the trends at the time, and i don't know what the proportion there is now.

The inner cities are economic consequences. It's because people who aren't white are less likely to have money.  Government housing has almost no white people in it.  It's why it's a Democratic demographic.  They just don't historically turn out in great numbers when it's time to vote.

My fault MD, what I meant was when Homo erectus left Africa 1.7 million years ago.  It is from this point that different human/ethnic species started to interbreed resulting in the different human variations we have today.  The irony is that those redneck bigoted people across the world are actually related to the “negro” - the laugh is on them!

Just along the track of our origins...

Recently ‘our’ Liz Hayes on ’60 Minutes’ followed her origins in a DNA search. We learned that we all come from those cute little bushman in Africa. All our DNA leads back to there. I personally don’t care if my ancestors were Aliens.   I am here in the best country in the world enjoying my life.

Quoted from SuziH

... I personally don’t care if my ancestors were Aliens...

I'd rather they were.  I am so not descended from a monkey!

Quoted from Paula

I'd rather they were.  I am so not descended from a monkey!

Ok then, you're descended from a fish. That any better Paula ?

Quoted from Paula

I am so not descended from a monkey!

And right you are.  

We’re not actually descendant from monkeys, but monkeys and we do share the same ancestry.   At some point in time the monkeys, gorillas and humans etc. went their separate ways.  While we may be related to monkeys, we are not descendant from them.  We are different!  We are talking monkeys.

Quoted from Zero

And right you are.  

We’re not actually descendant from monkeys, but monkeys and we do share the same ancestry.   At some point in time the monkeys, gorillas and humans etc. went their separate ways.  While we may be related to monkeys, we are not descendant from them.  We are different!  We are talking monkeys.

I am NOT related to any monkeys, either - period!

Quoted from Matt

Ok then, you're descended from a fish. That any better Paula ?

Nooo, I wanna be an alien!  

Quoted from Paula

Nooo, I wanna be an alien!  

And you are an Alien ...to every species born on another planet, moon or celestial body other than earth. Or if you were a Mexican and just crossed the border into the USA - I do believe they call their immigrants "aliens".