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tramp
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I wonder who's ahead on this front, the black man or the white woman  

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21325871-5001028,00.html?from=public_rss


I think the church plate would have gotten a good boost.

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Why's that?



I like the way handles himself. We already know he has a cool head in a crisis. I have seen a few interviews with him since he announced his intention to run for President and I like his ideas of where he wants to go with it all. Its not just me either, the polls suggest he, as of November last year is  the most popular politician in America. He appeals to democrats more than McCain so that will give him an edge.

Check out this link for the story.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/28/politics/main2211669.shtml


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Don't you think Cain’s experience with torture would make him more suited to be American President? *scarcasm*

But what did Guiliani  do except media interviews?  It was his staff and the various heads of services that that did all the work and organisation.
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Don't you think Cain’s experience with torture would make him more suited to be American President? *scarcasm*

But what did Guiliani  do except media interviews?  It was his staff and the various heads of services that that did all the work and organisation.


He basically turned New York around.
He lowered crime in New York. The homicide rate dropped by an amazing 65-70% . He lowered taxes when he came into power by  reducing the size of government and streamlining the way they used the money. All up he made probably 23-24 tax cuts in his tenure. He took a 2.4 billion dollar deficit and turned it around to a 3.2 billion dollar profit. I like his thinking on social issues which I can name if you would like, but that is another post in itself. And he conducts himself well to people and the press. He left as Mayor to battle testicular cancer and beat it. There aren't many angles to attack him from because he hasn't really failed.


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These good economic times has happened across the board in most Countries.  It is a character of the times brought about by the resurgence of the Chinese economy.  Australia has benefited greatly by this also and skiing behind the wave taking the credit is our 'ittle Johnny.

What are his (Guiliani)views on social issues?
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Guiliani is a very likeable politician and has the experience to be a big player in a Republican administration but I wouldn't hold my breath on the GOP electing a pro choice candidate...the far right will see to that. A victory for Guiliani should be a seat at the Cabinet, he would make a handy adviser even to a democratic administration.
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I think cross pollination is a good idea – it should happen here.

Once you have been elected Government and there is a member in opposition that in the Zone when it comes to a particular issue then why not use him/her.  There is no law that I know of, that says members of the opposition can not be given a Ministerial portfolio.
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These good economic times has happened across the board in most Countries.  


Is that why California is broke?  Gray Davis messed it up, which in my mind proves you still need to know what you are doing. You make it sound like he just sat back like Scrooge McDuck and just counted money rolling in. Maybe you don't like the fact that he is a Republican, which I understand as I absolutely loathe Hillary. I like Obama though. He seems intelligent and humble enough for the job.

His social issues such as not agreeing on abortion but respecting others rights make me think he has an open mind to everybodys rights. He supports gay rights not marriage though. Like me I'm not a fan but people have the right to be themselves. He is tough on crime and his results speak for themselves. He understands there is still a job to do in Iraq which I applaud him on. He wont tow the party line if he doesnt agree. He is his own man with his own set of ideas


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He basically turned New York around.
He lowered crime in New York. The homicide rate dropped by an amazing 65-70% . He lowered taxes when he came into power by  reducing the size of government and streamlining the way they used the money. All up he made probably 23-24 tax cuts in his tenure. He took a 2.4 billion dollar deficit and turned it around to a 3.2 billion dollar profit. I like his thinking on social issues which I can name if you would like, but that is another post in itself. And he conducts himself well to people and the press. He left as Mayor to battle testicular cancer and beat it. There aren't many angles to attack him from because he hasn't really failed.

Can he run for premier of NSW? We have the same problems as NY when he was elected

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These good economic times has happened across the board in most Countries.  It is a character of the times brought about by the resurgence of the Chinese economy.  Australia has benefited greatly by this also and skiing behind the wave taking the credit is our 'ittle Johnny.

Isn't Australia strong economy a result of Paul Keating? It is according to Paul Keating!!


      


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I wonder who's ahead on this front, the black man or the white woman  

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21325871-5001028,00.html?from=public_rss


It'll be interesting, Obama is considered "not black enough" and Clinton although white, is married to Bill who might as well be black.

Lookout for the next installment, Obama fronts up wearing some serious bling with a couple of ho's instead of his advisers and Hillary appearing in the next 50 Cent video shaking her booty with Bill in the background (face painted black) smoking some chronic surrounding by ho's  
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^ thats true and funny.
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has an open mind to everybodys rights. He supports gay rights not marriage though.


I can under understand his reluctance to go all the way because the most vocal anti-gay lobby is primarily extreme fundamentalist Christian and you don’t want to go around upsetting them.  But, with that quote above, you may as well say you agree with voluntary euthanasia but not suicide – it’s a half-pregnant statement.
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I can under understand his reluctance to go all the way because the most vocal anti-gay lobby is primarily extreme fundamentalist Christian and you don’t want to go around upsetting them.  But, with that quote above, you may as well say you agree with voluntary euthanasia but not suicide – it’s a half-pregnant statement.


You have to pick until you find something you dont like about him. Maybe he sounds a bit like Kevin each way bet Rudd, on this issue.


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Yes, and we must.  Someone seeking the most powerful office on earth must be open to severe scrutiny before elected.  It’s all a bit late once he has his finger on the trigger.  None is perfect, unfortunately, but in modern politics there is no best candidate but rather the least objectionable.
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Yes, and we must.  Someone seeking the most powerful office on earth must be open to severe scrutiny before elected.  It’s all a bit late once he has his finger on the trigger.  None is perfect, unfortunately, but in modern politics there is no best candidate but rather the least objectionable.


It is funny how ones mind plays tricks . . I read that sentence and when I looked at the word elected . . my mind filled in the word to make it 'electrocuted' . .    . . funny that!!!  




I will be out of the country for the first 12 days of BB . how clever am I ! Smart enough to leave the 'dead-heads' behind    
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