Lets see Obama bring home all those big promises, Just like Rudd has for Australia...........  

I'm sure he'll do better than his predecessor, just as Rudd has/is.

Mind you, that wouldn't be hard (in either case).  

As if Rudd is doing better than Howard. Obama may do though.

Has anyone heard of Prop 8 in CA?

83% of church goers voted for it
Californians who never attend church were 14 percent in favor and 86 percent against.

It was favoured by non-college people
But rejected by College educated people
55 percent of white voters and 52 percent of Hispanics voted against
African-Americans voted for Proposition 8 by a 69 percent to 31 percent margin.
Those 69% can never complain of racism again.

And the link between church and education.. interesting. (eg, churchgoers hate gays, non-educated people hate gays.. also blacks hate gays)

Wait so the result on prop 8 is a yes? Hmm we may now have a black man in the white house but I guess the white house won't be painted pink anytime soon... makes me sick.

I still stick by my proposition though that they shouldn't get "married" so all the churchies shut their mouths, and LGB people can have something exactly the same as marriage but just call it another name so the stupid churchies can't complain.

^^^ I agree with you Matt  


I'm real happy to see Obama got his win. Something feels different already  

It seems to be a yes, I'm not sure if it's final yet.. can't believe it passed
Florida also passed some crap, but not as hateful.

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Lets see Obama bring home all those big promises, Just like Rudd has for Australia...........  

Aquamonkey.... I am sorry you are such a pessimist, have such a 'glass half empty' view on so many things. Before Obama has even drawn breath you are believing that he is going to be a rotton Prez. You hated Rudd before he became PM of Australia and now it's Obama.

I think Rudd is doing a pretty good damned job considering 'these times'. I for one am grateful that McCain and his gun totin', bible bashing, side kick did not get in.
I cried from relief when I learned Obama got in.  

SuziH can you run over to Rudd's topic and fill in the good he's bringing to the country, apart from now realising their is a financial crisis. How are those lower fuel and petrol prices that were rambled off constantly pre-election??

Seriously Obama's done a lot of talk about "change" their isn't a whole heap of policy behind it. thgis comment was sent in by a reader at news.com.au



If I actually see him do something I'll be taking note but like with our own fearless leader smoke and mirrors doesn't do much for me

Well Aqua... who do you think would do a better job? If all you are going to do is complain about them without resolve what's the point? Both Rudd and Obama, I believe, have inspired both countries younger generations to care about politics and care about how their country is run after being oppressed and ignored by other leaders (eg. early electoral registrations and a focus on the 30+ ages). This is one of the greatest positives that has come out of them running and ultimately winning the elections. If as youve said is the wrong decision then so be it, at least next time the younger generations will know more about our political system and listen closer.

It was time for a change in the US and Obama was the best avaible, not that he had much of an option against him. I hope he does well.
As for Rudd, I dont like him, never have done and dont think I ever will, BUT, that dont mean I aint gonna accept that pensioner bonus next month  

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Well Aqua... who do you think would do a better job? If all you are going to do is complain about them without resolve what's the point? Both Rudd and Obama, I believe, have inspired both countries younger generations to care about politics and care about how their country is run after being oppressed and ignored by other leaders (eg. early electoral registrations and a focus on the 30+ ages). This is one of the greatest positives that has come out of them running and ultimately winning the elections. If as youve said is the wrong decision then so be it, at least next time the younger generations will know more about our political system and listen closer.

Out of McCain, Obama, Hillary and whoever else was in the race to be the republican candidate - I hope the one I can't remember had something on offer! Australia wise anyone not a Labor MP would do better. I was going to make that 'federal' labor MP, but they might then call in one of the criminals running NSW.

But you're right about the younger generations given the reality bomb that's going off at the moment (is the jobless rate increasing again under a labor government) I think they are going to care about the next election, they'll be wanting someone to scrape them out of a sh1thole.

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that dont mean I aint gonna accept that pensioner bonus next month

  

Yep... I for one can't wait. Moving so frequently of late has really sucked me and my bank balance dry!