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 Should paedophiles be named and shamed?
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MeanDean
February 7, 2009, 7:40pm Report to Moderator

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i don't think the person should be named. the person has served their time and they have rules they have to follow upon release. if people knew the paedophiles would have no chance of a normal life. and i know as i was abused as a child by family and not my father who passed away before i was 2. everyone deserves a chance. parents should teach their children not to trust or talk to strangers and with safety houses etc a paedophile should be allowed to live in peace if they follow the rules of parole.
In the US, there's a national registry, and people are required to notify their neighbors when they move in.  
I was abused by my mother.  It was for a long time conveniant to think that she was a lonely sick person for a short time, and that as her child I was a target in such a manner that she wouldn't really do this to someone else.  I more recently revisted that notion, and the hard truth is that I was raised by a woman who I have no idea about when it comes to predicting who she might do what to and under which circumstances.  If there were a way for me to prove what had happened today, I would press charges simply because lack of doing so puts the responsibility on me if she does it to someone else, no matter how mild or severe the offence might be.  My mother should have to identify herself to the world for what she is because its for the good of society, and if given the chance, I will see that its the case.  The intention isn't to have someone run out of town, or harrasssed, but to keep parents aware of a threat to their children posed by people who are thus far resistant to treatment and extremely likely to re-offend.  I don't think we should give up on them as far as treatment goes, and just say "Oh well, they just can't be treated," as psychology seems to do, but I don't think its a bad thing to warn people given the current prognosis of these people.


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most definitely yes..................
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Tesla
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First of all I am deeply sorry that you have experienced such unsuportable harm.
Second. I think that it is admireble that you found the courage to tell us about it which is a very difficult thing to do.
It can be very encouringing for others dealing with the same issue, though.
Thank you very much - you have my deep respect !

We lately had the same discussion about national registries for rapists, etc. in Switzerland and I really think that it is absolutely necessary for the security of the poplulation. Otherwise these people can easily just move to another part of the country and go on with their criminal activities. Incest is in fact a special case because the danger of a follow-up crime is questionable. After all I reckon that it is necessary to mention that such a registry can be a questionable thing for suspects and not convicted persons. There a max of care of attention is essential like with other registries for hooligans or registries in the field of healthcare etc.

But we had in Switzerland an interesting discussion about another aspect of sexual abuse, that is the statue of limitation. Meanwhile there is no more statue of limitation in my country but the problem is still not solved, on the contrary. There are new problems which arose as e.g. the abolishment of the statue of limitation for other crimes, the problem of finding some evidence for the bureau of investigation and last but not least the insuportable harm caused by flashbacks to the victims and most disagreeable questions during the trial because of the lack of evidence.

Btw. I think that therapies can possibly help the victims (e.g. trauma therapies developed for war victims etc.) but I'm very much in doubt whether therapies can help the delinquent except maybe for chemical or other castration of male delinquents which still are in the majority. Nevertheless I still think that research should never be ceased also in this respect because many of the these delinquents have been victims of a crime or social disadvantage themselves. This should always be on our mind when we talk about this issue.

Sorry for my bad English. I'm trying to do my best but the issue is very complex and it is not easy to talk about it in a foreign language. Nevertheless I hope that my statement was at least more or less comprehensive.



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Well said, Tesla and as far as I am concerned your English and grasp of the English language is better than most young people in Australia!


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I agree Tesla, the biggest concern is that there appears to be no therapy that is proven to work for these people.
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No therapy ever will. Paedophiles believe it is 'love' and they are only showing their love to the child/children. They even call it NAMBLA in the USA which stands for North American Man/Boy Love Association They see nothing 'wrong' with their predilection  . Paedophiles who are caught and charged are like any psychopath or Sociopath who will never change because they like what they do. I study a lot about crime and truly there is no amount of counselling or therapy that is going to show these monsters the error of their ways.

My Mother was abused and interfered with by her Father, my Grand-father, for years. He died a horrible painful death from lung cancer and other secondary cancers, when I was 15. When my mother revealed to us (4 daughters and Father) what had been done to her I was 28. That day I stopped grieving for the loss of my 'Pop' and said 'Rot in hell you bast**d'.

Recently I was discussing this with a friend who has studied psychology. She asked had he ever touched me and  said 'no' but then I remembered he used to let me look at his girlie magazines called 'MAN'. I was only around 5 when I began looking at them. Not secretively but wide out in the open on the lounge room floor. My friend pointed out that he was 'grooming' me. To make nudity and the female body more acceptable to me, as a child! I almost threw up when I realised she was correct.  

He never once touched me or my sisters that any of us remember. When my Mother told her sister and two brothers in the last 15 years what happened to her they insisted she was lying/imagining about it and wrote my Mother off. They still do not have contact with her. But that's okay because she knows that I believe and Dad believed what she said was true and Mum knows in her heart that it is true.
My three older sisters believe that Mum's memory may of misconstrued what happened or that she imagined it, as the years since she revealed her secret have passed. My belief in her and what she said has never wavered... because she is my Mum.


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Tesla
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About 80 % of sexual abuse happens to be in the inner or outer circle of families.

I used to work for the prosecution for several years and as a woman I was also doing several cases of rape, esp. of incest.

One of the biggest problems about it is the big silence in the families and often also of the society surrounding it but first of all the deep post traumatic disorder of the victims who lose completely the confidence in the family as a social instituation and last but not least the confidence in themselves which often affects future intimate relationships - assumed they are possible at all, family planing and professional life. The family is ruined in either case with and without trial.

As a postgraduate i also participated in the writing of a book of my professor. This book was about prison sentences and resocializing measures, i.a. the security measure of lifelong prison storage of criminals which of course also refers to sexual criminal offenders. There is a lot of reasearch beeing done with regard to therapies and this can and must not be completely ignored for stigmatizing criminal offenders as monsters does not solve the problem at all, quite the contrary. It anticipates any progress in that respect. I don't think that these discussions should be left to political hardliners, the same people who defend  death penalty, the same people who send soldiers to war in Iraq, Afghanisten, etc. and after their return (of the soldiers) - if they ever return - ignore them completely, not to speak about the complete lack of medical and especially psychological care or social and professional integration programs.

Suzy,  dplease on't think that I'm speaking with disrespect regarding your family history,
far from it. I'm just trying to see things from a a bit different perspective.






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