Well, here we see again, The Middle East is going to another civil war again.

I feel sadden about the innocent people caught up and leaving their country their were born in Lebanon and in Israel. I see there were a lot of bombings around Haifa and Beirut, airports and bridges to trap the country.

Unfortunately I can't never see any peace in the Middle East. I know we want to see peace in the Middle East, but there are some idiots in this world today that don't want peace and refuse to lay down their weapons !!  

So you're in the crowd that thinks no conflict = peace

Quoted from aquamonkey

So you're in the crowd that thinks no conflict = peace

Well we don't like war, don't we??

WTF?

Quoted from babes_mate

Well we don't like war, don't we??

*scratches head*  

Was that a yes, or a no, B_M?  

Quoted from Paula

*scratches head*  

Was that a yes, or a no, B_M?  

No, I am against war. I wish for peace !!

Well that's one thing we agree on, then.

When has there really been Peace? Many third world countries have continual Warfare. Many Middle Eastern Countries are at war with each other. Ireland has been in a Civil/Religious War for decades and decades. Just because it is not shown on the news 24/7 does not mean Peace reigns supreme. Some places in the world have never known Peace in generations. We ARE the lucky Country, mainly because of our remoteness and alies.

I have never been able to understand why people (usually the sign carriers IMHO) think that the absence of fighting equats to peace.....?

Quoted from Aussies_Online

If the teenage Muslims were at school, learning about things rather than plotting their revenge on America, we would live in a better world. But of course, any 15 year old today will tell you that he knows about everything... Far more than any school could possibly teach him.

Here are generalisations and racial stereotyping again. What about all the Muslim terrorists who did go to school or were at school and still comitted terrorists acts (the majority btw).

Why Muslims, what about Christian teenagers who go to school and decide to shoot or blow them up. are they less of a terrorist and are they not also attacking America?

In fact I believe most young terrorists are recruited and taught in schools, so they are getting an eduction.

As usual things are never quite as black and white, Muslim and Christian as being made out.

Quoted from Aussies_Online

And may I ask how do you know that to be so?
From a logical point of view, people do not get an education and then decide to blow themselve up. Commensense dictate otherwise. And commonsense is what an education gives you.

And by the way, there was no racial stereotyping.
All terrorists are Muslims.
The ones we are talking about anyway.
You know, the ones with a pilot licence.

The London bombers were all very well educated with their leader being a well regarded school teacher.

The Bali bombers all finished educations.

The September 2001 terrorists were all well educated, they had to be to be able to pull off what they did including getting pilot licences.

The Beslan terrorists were educated (at least from memory the leaders were).

...and it goes on. In fact it is the better educated who are more likely to be recruited and to comit the big atrocities (there are many large tomes of psychology why this is so). A couple of those arrested for the attempted recent plane bombings were new Islamist converts and well educated.

I find your pidgeon holing and racial undertones very perturbing. "All terrorists are Muslims". A paragraph on its own so as to stand out. McVey and his partner weren't Muslim, KKK aren't Muslims, the American school shooters and bombers aren't Muslim, The Maoists terrorists aren't Muslim, The Papuan rebel groups aren't Muslim etc.

BTW

Quoted Text

Some people use the term "Islamic terrorism" instead of "Islamist terrorism", but this use is contentious; many Muslims, particularly those supporting liberal movements within Islam, do not accept that attacks on civilians can ever be justified by Islam. From this perspective, describing terrorism as "Islamic" is seen as a slur on Islam. Although "Islamic terrorism" is commonly used by Western media to describe the activity of a wide variety of groups, some believe that "Islamist terrorism" is a more accurate term that respects the sensitivities of Muslims.

That would not be the reasons for you getting banned.....
you have baited, been rude, called into question members' lack of manliness, their youth and therefore their knowledge, made sexist and very degrading remarks regarding women... I'm sure there are plenty more but I am bored. It would be different if you would 'discuss' or 'debate' a topic without personally attacking someone else's point of view. This is what has put you offside AO. We don't really care if members love or hate America, Love or hate John Howard or love or hate Muslims as long as their posts are not racist or  hate filled or personally denigrating someone else for their point of view.

Quoted from SuziH re AO

...you have baited, been rude, called into question members' lack of manliness, their youth and therefore their knowledge, made sexist and very degrading remarks regarding women...It would be different if you would 'discuss' or 'debate' a topic without personally attacking someone else's point of view...We don't really care if members love or hate America, Love or hate John Howard or love or hate Muslims as long as their posts are not racist or hate filled or personally denigrating someone else for their point of view.

Why is it that the majority of those that shares views such as AO's, the liberals, the conservatives or whatever like minded group always resort to insults. I see this time and time again by right-wing journo's/howard propagandists such as Andrew Bolt in Melbourne and Piers Ackerman in Sydney and of course shock jocks like Stan Zemanek etc. Personal insults are really un-intelligent and say alot about the person who uses them.

What you say x452 is absolutely correct.  I also find that the same crowd do not not use any researched data, and never have something new to say about an issue. It's just the same old rhetoric over and over.

It's the hypocrisy that can get me squirming.

They just can not see that they are not applying the Mosaic law: treating others the same as they would want to be treated themselves. And yet they will be the first to go on about morals, religion, civilization yadda yadda yadda.

Now now, Mr. Online. I haven't fully read into both of your arguments and sides, but I think we should be all able to present your opinions, but still have some respect for the other members. There should be no flaming or personal attacks on each other, this should be fundemental in creating a great community forum. This should go for everyone.

We all should respect each other more and respect their opinions and views. Arguments are good in a forum, but when people use personal attacks, it's unacceptable.

And if you think just because I might be one of the younger people on this forum and my opinion is not needed here, then so be it. I can live with that, but don't go around attacking someone on their personality, views or opinions.

Just my 2 Cents.