Thanks Gizmo. But shouldn't Israel kidnap or capture Lebanon's soldiers (same amount of their missing soldiers) instead of bombing?
. .that would seem like the logical thing to do . .(but that makes it a 'Mexican Standoff' . .let's leave the Mexicans out of it.) but where war is concerned. . logic took a holiday. .
DEMOCRACY = Voters deciding by Poll on who will be the local member that "Big Business" will push around.
That would make a little more sense than what has happened hey Antony! Israel was pi**** at Hezbollah so any excuse was good enough to start what they did and escalate it to where they have. All this over 2 soldiers... I don't think so. That's just an excuse for killing eachother and damn anyone who gets caught in the cross fire. No respect for human life. Fools.
That would make a little more sense than what has happened hey Antony! Israel was pi**** at Hezbollah so any excuse was good enough to start what they did and escalate it to where they have. All this over 2 soldiers... I don't think so. That's just an excuse for killing eachother and damn anyone who gets caught in the cross fire. No respect for human life. Fools.
So we should still keep the Mexicans out of it all ?? .
DEMOCRACY = Voters deciding by Poll on who will be the local member that "Big Business" will push around.
I know that kidnapping is against the law, but if your soldiers were kidnapped, you kidnap back their soldiers would make things even. Attacking another country's civilians is way out of line.
One thing I don't understand is why was the so-called piece making country - USA - siding with Israel? That is against logic.
I know that kidnapping is against the law, but if your soldiers were kidnapped, you kidnap back their soldiers would make things even. Attacking another country's civilians is way out of line.
One thing I don't understand is why was the so-called piece making country - USA - siding with Israel? That is against logic.
On September 20, 2001, in a historic speech to a joint session of Congress, President George W. Bush famously declared, "Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated." Few terrorist organizations meet this standard, but Hezbollah is definitely one of them. The Lebanon-based group has cells on every continent, and its highly skilled operatives have committed horrifying attacks as far away as Argentina. Before September 11, 2001, it was responsible for more American deaths than any other terrorist organization. Hassan Nasrallah, the group's secretary-general, recently proclaimed, "Death to America was, is, and will stay our slogan." Since the outbreak of the second Palestinian intifada in September 2000, Hezbollah has armed and trained Palestinian terrorists, further fraying the already tattered peace process. Hezbollah operatives have reportedly traveled to postwar Iraq to rekindle historic ties with Iraqi Shi'ites.
The article also goes on to say that many in America believe that Hezbollah should be the next target in the war on terror.
Jewish youth centre attacked August 02, 2006 10:52am Article from: AAP A JEWISH youth centre in Sydney has been targeted in an attack community leaders say is clearly linked to the war between Israel and Hezbollah.
It is the second anti-Semitic attack in Sydney in four days.
NSW Jewish Board of Deputies chief executive Vic Alhadeff said today attackers had failed in their bid to set alight the Jewish youth movement centre, adjacent to the Mizrachi Synagogue on Old South Head Road at Bondi.
Investigations had shown the assailants intended to cause much greater damage, dousing wooden blocks inside the building with gasoline and trying to set them alight.
The building, which is in construction, was vacant at the time of the fire and had minor damage.
Mr Alhadeff said the incident was clearly linked to rising tensions in the Middle East.
"Whenever there is a rise in tensions in the Middle East, there is a clear increase in the number of anti-Semitic attacks in Australia," Mr Alhadeff said.
"Racism has no place in our society."
Parramatta Synagogue, in Sydney's west, was the target of an anti-Semitic attack on Sunday evening when projectiles were hurled at the building's roof and blocks of concrete were thrown at two cars, smashing windows.
Officers are searching for 10 men of Middle Eastern appearance seen laughing and running from the Mason Street synagogue after it was attacked about 9pm (AEST).
NSW Police have responded by stepping up patrols of Jewish and Islamic sites as the crisis in the Middle East deepens.
I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment, because it will never come again. - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
As we look at the images of orphaned children and their terror-stricken faces, we should ask ourselves: who taught these children the art of terror?
We might then have the answer to the taboo question.
These insomniac innocents have endured Israeli warplanes above them, high enough to be inaccessible to Hezbollah's vastly inferior technology, but low enough to terrorise helpless men, women and children.
They have witnessed how Israel unleashes its own phosphorous bombs and other weapons of mass destruction on civilians.
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Israel and its complicit allies have taught a new generation to kill or be killed, and to inflict terror on civilians.
They might as well hand such graduation gowns to the refugees. Perhaps they will become targets in the next wave in the war on terror.
What has happened has only added another weapon to the arsenal of the American-hating terror campaign.
Today's children have had their homes, history, security and families taken from them. Tomorrow, they will feel the need to harness their outrage, which is why resistance movements such as Hezbollah are such a magnet.
I saw it and the TV piece that went with it and it proves nothing whatsover. Look at the picture and you tell me where the so called population centre they are supposedly located is? A couple of nondescript buildings in the background of a closeup of fighters on a truck proves nothing whatsover. Where are the rocket pads the article mentions, not one picture of them? Ask yourself why the ariticle didn't show the wide shots instead of the obviously cropped ones? This was the same trick the US used in Iraq to make it look like there were hundreds of Iraqis supporting them when in fact there were only a handful. The gun on the truck is a very old mostly ineffective Russian anti-aircraft gun, so is actually protecting civlians by putting up AA fire in a vain attempt to stop Israeli aircraft from dropping bombs. AA guns within civilian areas are perfectly legitimate and used that way by all nations including us. The gun is absolutely useless against ground targets and has a very short range, plus there is nothing to prove it wasn't staging through an area to goto a frontline position. Israelis are staging their military equipment through towns so does that mean the civilians there are legitimate targets? It is not a cowardly howitzer being used by the Israelis lobbing HE and phospherous shells from 20+km away.
Hizbollah is wrong and needs to be wiped out but there were moves to do this. Did you know this Viv?
Behind the scenes there have been negotiations and moves from the USA, Israel, Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon to empower a democratic Lebanon to get rid of Hizbollah from the inside. They were giving the Lebanese government money and expertise to both marginalise Syria and destroy Hizbollah, in one act of over the top aggression Israel has thrown all that work out the door, made many more people hate it, incubated a new generation of terrorists to fight in the future and turned the democratic of govenment of Lebanon along with Jordan and Egypt against it.
Why is Israel a law unto itself and allowed to do things no other nation on earth is allowed to without severe consequences?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Boomslanger, let me first say that I agree with the view that the truth is the first casualty in both politics.
I looked at the articles you say give a balanced view. The one you quoted, talking about the terror on children's faces was given by JOSEPH WAKIM who is the founder of the Australian Arabic Council.
The photographs in question were taken by a journalist, and smuggled out by a Melbourne man. He was the one who said that the Hezbollah didn't even allow the ambulances or the Lebanese Army to go in until they had removed their rockets and hid other evidence.
The article also quotes UN humanitarian chief Jan Egeland "When I was in Lebanon, in the Hezbollah heartland, I said Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending in among women and children," Mr Egeland said. "I heard they were making statements that they were proud of losing fewer armed men than civilians. It's hard to see how they could be proud of such a situation."
So, Boomslanger, where is the proof that this is an Israeli lie?
I do have other articles, but this reply is already too long, so this is enough for now.
Hizbollah do blend amongst the civilian population, that is fact and the UN has cited them for war crimes in doing so, just as it has cited Israel for blatant and reckless attacks against civilians. Only a fraction of Israel's attacks have been targetting Hizbollah with many directly attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure that has no effect on Hizbollah, as has been proven. This is Israel just as much punishing the civilians of Lebanon for allowing Hizbollah to live among them as it is to suppress Hizbollah.
The IDF started a story about Hizbollah setting up road blocks and shooting civilians that attempted to leave towns they held. This story is now doing the rounds on dozens of pro-Israeli and right wing blogs. It is pure propagandist fiction.
For all the so called evidence of the story from the reporter "smuggling" out these pictures, they show nothing whatsover. If they had smuggled out pictures of rocket lauching pads (which he mentions), or the rockets themselves or in the 3 story building where 60+ people were killed, 37 of which were children and 15 of them handicapped, then I would agree with you 100%. In nearly every civilian building bombed by Israel in so called precision targetting of Hizbollah, not one piece of Hizbollah weaponry or one Hizbollah body has been found. Nothing but civilians.
Also most of the civilian survivors making it out of southern Lebanon do not confirm the stories of Hizbollah holding them back or using them for shields as Israel claims, but nearly all tell of the deliberate targetting of civilians by Israelis as they attempt to flee or rescue fellow citizens from bombed building and damaged vehicle convoys. Israel has continuously attacked ambulances across the region trying to rescue people (that is cited by UN observers including the UN post that was attacked). There are also reporter accounts of Israelis attacking rescuers attempting to aid those injured in Israeli attacks with one reporter himself coming under attack trying to get people out of a burning vehicle.
In this conflict, as I always do in the M.E. conflicts, I hold both sides equally to blame and get irate when people attempt to make out Israel as the innocent victim in all this, just trying to defend itself. Israel has provoked and instigated many an action and has broken many UN resolutions itself, but has no hesitation in demanding that full punitive action be taken against any Arab country that does not conform to an UN resolution.
It is the Arab states and people that ask for neutral observers, the Palestinians have asked for a US military presence in the occupied territories for decades, but it is Israel who always refuses the scrutiny, just as neutral observers have a habit of being "accidently" killed whenever Israel has conducted military operations. Israel is a law unto itself and with the complicit aid of the US gets away with things no other country in the world can, including America itself. This duplicity and hypocrisy is one of the major fuels for anti-Israeli and American sentiment around the world, and we are seeing it in action with Lebanon right now.
I'll leave you with one fact written by an Australian Jew, that when I find the article I'll quote it:
Australia has the most pro-Israeli media in the world, even ahead of America. Even Israel is more critical of Israel than we are here in Australia, something I can attest to as I was in Tel Aviv and Ashdod late last year.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Very interesting read especially the US neocons thinking of the M.E. as The Realm and wanting to expand into it. Here is the true agenda behind Israel's attack:
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