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Like the title says, what on earth is going on there??? First it was Palastine vs Israel now Lebanon has gotten in on it. Is this all a fight for land or something more?
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Over what though??? Religion? Land? Both? Is this akin to the Catholic vs Prodestant wars in Ireland? Looks like everyone's going crazy  |
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Over what though??? Religion? Land? Both? Is this akin to the Catholic vs Prodestant wars in Ireland? Looks like everyone's going crazy
It is the same cause as usual . . land and religious history . .but it has just been going on twice as long as the Catholic v's Protestant thing.
Israel claims it has a right to its God given land . . from the days Moses led the Israelites from Egypt . . . and the Palestinians have been fighting for it back in one way or another since the 1st century AD. |
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Over what though??? Religion? Land? Both? Is this akin to the Catholic vs Prodestant wars in Ireland? Looks like everyone's going crazy
It goes back so far no one really knows (or cares). One side kills the other and takes the land, the other side strikes back and retakes the land. Maybe they should step things up, get it over and done with!
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Australia 'must intervene' in Mid-East
From: AAP
July 14, 2006
AUSTRALIA must intervene to stop Israel's war against Lebanon and the Palestinians, a Middle Eastern community leader said.
Israeli warplanes yesterday struck the runways of Beirut international airport in the city's Hezbollah-controlled southern suburbs, forcing its closure, after Hezbollah guerrillas kidnapped two Israeli soldiers and killed eight.
Islamic Friendship Association of Australia Keysar Trad said Australia had a moral obligation to intervene to stop the war against Lebanon and the Palestinian people.
"Australian Muslims, along with the wider community, are greatly disturbed at this escalation and call upon the Australian government to intervene to stop any further acts of war," Mr Trad said in a statement.
"With half a million Lebanese Australians, Australia has a moral obligation to intervene to stop this war."
Several Australians were last night believed to be stranded at Beirut airport as Israeli military forces pounded the Lebanese capital and blockaded the country.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) was trying to contact a group that ABC radio reported had been trapped at the airport when it came under attack.
The Australian embassy in Beirut was also closed as the security situation in the Middle East took a turn for the worse.
DFAT has upgraded its travel warnings, advising Australians against travelling to Lebanon and urging those already there to seek shelter in secure locations and to monitor media reports.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19785033-29277,00.htmlThis Keysar Trad f#ck can go screw himself, the same guy did/does absolutely nothing in relation to middle eastern thugs rampaging around various parts of Sydney he just gives the customary "it's a cultural thing" sh1t. Australia has SFA to do with this situation. P.S. This should do heaps to help petrol prices  |
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This is another perfect example of the west's incompetence and disregard for others. The UK and the US gave the Jews Israel because no one else wanted them, and since Israel was their holy land it would make a perfect fit. Did they not see the problems that would arise from this? Or is it they simply did not care? After all who would care if the Jews and the Arabs destroyed each other? |
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This is another perfect example of the west's incompetence and disregard for others. The UK and the US gave the Jews Israel because no one else wanted them, and since Israel was their holy land it would make a perfect fit. Did they not see the problems that would arise from this? Or is it they simply did not care? After all who would care if the Jews and the Arabs destroyed each other?
You keep talking like that. . if you hate 'The West' so much . . why do you live here. ??
The middle east is not a font of good deeds either you know. . your phrasing is inflammatory and tactless . .people can't help where they are born so leave off the nationalistic leanings. It is also people who share your opinions that keep putting trust in those same politicians you so often want to fix things. . both East and West don't know what to do any more. . |
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You keep talking like that. . if you hate 'The West' so much . . why do you live here. ??
Never said I hated the west. Just very sick of all those people who have the attitude of "We're better than them" and "Survival of the strongest".
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The middle east is not a font of good deeds either you know.
Never said it was. But with exploitation and disregard the west has for these countries, is it any wonder they are messed up? We must accept some responsibility for situations such as this. And yet we still have people that think what we're doing is right. I don't see you pulling up aquamonkey for saying they should finish each other off. Or does it suit you to keep your head buried in the sand? |
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WTF how exactly are the oil sheiks being exploited with their billions of dollars? |
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WTF how exactly are the oil sheiks being exploited with their billions of dollars?
They're not, I mean countries like Afghanistan and Iraq where the US is now in control of their oil.
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I don't bury my head in the sand. . I just happen to know how/when all the troubles you keep bleating about will be resolved.
Really? Please tell us?
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I don't buy into the political remedy for anything
You might have given up on democracy but there are some of us that still believe in it. Where's your character Gizmo? Or must we get you wet to see some emotion? By joining the hopeless you have essentially conceded that this is as good as it gets. What a sad world you live in. (As I realise I have a stick in my hand and a deceased equine in front of me). |
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The root of all recent problems as x452 says date from the US giving land they had no right to give to the jews. Can you imagine if it was Lebanon or Palestine attacking Israel? The US(and little johnny) would be in like flynn demanding they stop the agression. But since it's the other way they don't give a rats as they are inherantly anti-muslim. And does all the Israeli agression remind anyone of a certain european nation circa 1939 |
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that entire last post by x452 is somewhat surreal
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Lebanon or Palestine attacking Israel
Who would think of Lebanon or Palestine attacking anyone!!!!!! poor sweet little lambs they are  |
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Really? Please tell us?
The middle east problems started thousands of years ago with Israel and surrounding neighbours fighting for land and sovereignty. . .nothing new there.
The Bible book of Daniel tells us that there is a time when men will not rule each other any more 'coz the results are plain for all to see . . one man is NOT better than another. . neither are men who are politically motivated capable of fixing the myriad of things that need fixing.
Have a look at Daniel 2:44 and see for yourself. . . 'those kings' will be swept way to make way for a rulership that will not be passed on to any man. . . today, indiviuals are choosing to do the right thing and live in peace as preparation for that time. . (millions BTW). |
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The root of all recent problems as x452 says date from the US giving land they had no right to give to the jews. Can you imagine if it was Lebanon or Palestine attacking Israel? The US(and little johnny) would be in like flynn demanding they stop the agression. But since it's the other way they don't give a rats as they are inherantly anti-muslim. And does all the Israeli agression remind anyone of a certain european nation circa 1939
Hi fajo, I'm a little slow on the uptake with all this. How did the US give away land to the jews? Was it uninhabited at the time or did they just hand it over while others were still living there? Is that what Palestine and Lebanon are so insensed about? |
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