Its nice to watch a little tv in the morning while getting ready for work but unfortunately both the morning shows - Sunrise and Today - have a number of downfalls. While the supporting crew are mostly fine many of the presenters are a different story.

Personally I cant stand Koch or Mel (please stop those stupid remarks and inane looks) and I used to like Jessica Rowe but come on, no one can be that happy/smiley that early in the morning! I was glad to see Tracy Grimshaw (the Katie Couric wannabe) replaced but Jess just hasn't hit the spot.

So, for all you other morning risers, which show do you prefer, or neither at all??!

Sunrise wins hands down in my opinion

If I have the TV on between 6 and 9am I like to alternate between the two morning shows. If one ticks ticks me off I switch to the other. I like Grant Denure's weather more than the Today show's. I enjoy Natalie and the Sports guy more than Mel and Koshie. I enjoy the content of the Today show more and the news readers are good. I am very fickle when it comes to these two shows. (actually I am just very fickle full stop!)

Sunrise all the way.

Cass.

sunrise definately. gotta love koshie!

I watch either, but i mostly watch sunrise in the mornings, but if i don't feel like watching one i change the channel back and forth during ads.

I hate kochie.
P.S. How did he get a book named "Kochie's Best Jokes" as a serious joke book release????

Oh . .   'hate' is so strong. . it just takes time to get used to new changes to shows we get comfortable with.
Before you let hate build up . .just change the channel . . it could prove better for your health.  

Wow that's really surprising, how do the like 20 people that watch sunrise have time to watch it in the morning? :O
I voted none they all sound dead boring.

TV in the morning is just decadent.  

Sometimes I wake up and have my shower and morning coffee ready and still have to wait for Sunrise to start at 6am.

I set my TV to turn on itself with Sunrise as my alarm clock.

Quoted from dara

Wow that's really surprising, how do the like 20 people that watch sunrise have time to watch it in the morning? :O
I voted none they all sound dead boring.

well I cant speak for anyone else, but I dont watch the whole show. I just watch the odd 30 mins of it here and there. Mostly at about 6.30am before everyone gets up. Gives me a chance to see if there is anything newsworthy happening before starting the day.

I watch Ten's Early News or nothing. Can't stand the lame fluff.

Quoted from normangerman

I watch Ten's Early News or nothing. Can't stand the lame fluff.

thank you someone mentioned that. i was going to say, why wasnt it included in the poll!

As expected.

It would be interesting to see how 10 is catching up the news reputation.

Heh, it's the same news everywhere, but I respect TEN giving us twice 30 minutes of news rather than 3 minutes news, 3 minutes sport, 4 minutes weather and 20 minutes tips on how to lose weight.

100% agreed. No doubt antony will expect this though. Tss should be in soon to promote sunrise..

There are people enjoy watching unprofessional coverage news from 10.

What's the difference between Ten, Nine and Seven news? Nothing. It's the same stories, the same type of people watching...

unprofessional huh.. well if thats the case then sure, seems a lot less fake and boring to me

ABC and SBS will always be the leaders in news. TEN News is just on at a more convenient time for me.

I do watch ABC News regularly though for your information.

ABC is an awesome channel

Quoted from normangerman

What's the difference between Ten, Nine and Seven news? Nothing. It's the same stories, the same type of people watching...

It's the same news except for...

Quoted from normangerman

Heh, it's the same news everywhere, but I respect TEN giving us twice 30 minutes of news rather than 3 minutes news, 3 minutes sport, 4 minutes weather and 20 minutes tips on how to lose weight.

  

I like my news in a concise manner; 2 and SBS do that perfectly, followed by 7 & 9 (not in any order).  I don't watch morning news as I am either on my way to or at work.

I like 10 news it has a nice casual feel while still being professional.

Quoted from Paula

It's the same news except for...

  

All I said is that in the morning, TEN has more news than Surnrise or Today. The quality is about the same, which is average IMO.

My point exactly, hence the repetition and all the  s.

Ah.

Morning news should be light and some interesting topics, as well as letting people to switch on at any time and able to get the headlines in a few minutes. Without the need to sit in front of telly on time.

That's why the Early News has a news ticker and repeats the news at 6.30, like Nine News when they had a news bulletin before Today. I used to tune into that before it was canned.

According to Fifty Year of Television in Australia, the 'ticker' for news headline was first started in Seven's Sunrise. Today show, although have much longer history, followed.

Still better to hear and see the news headlines rather than reading the headlines. And just the right amount.

Quoted from antony

... Still better to hear and see the news headlines rather than reading the headlines...

I agree!  That ticker is so annoying.  

Today Can't stand Kochie and Mel. Yuck.

Hear Hear Jessie... totally agree!
I'd prefer Nat and Mark Beretta as hosts and love it when they do. I try not to watch anything that early anymore... I'd rather be on 'here' reading my news and the posts on the forum. Or sleeping

Seven's Sunrise and Nine's Today will be back tomorrow (Boxing Day).

This thread is titled Today or Sunrise and is about Today or Sunrise, however, just for the sack of completeness, I am going to mention something that's completely unrelated. Ten's Morning News will NOT be back.

It will be good to see Sunrise and Today again.

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The Early news WILL return, but after NYE

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All I said is that in the morning, TEN has more news than Surnrise or Today. The quality is about the same, which is average IMO.

For someone who professes to watching these news services you certainly seem ignorant of them, especially Ten.

Ten is in no way the same quality, it is far superior. If you go just on news alone it's streaks ahead. Today used to be a much better and had a fairly decent in-depth news service, more so than Sunrise, but is now actually worse than Sunrise with more fluff pieces and shorter news bulletins.

Ten on the other hand has far more in-depth news, has angles on the news the other services don't have and it often shows footage and airs news pieces that are not shown by any of the other services.

The point is mute though as news doesn't work for brekky TV, as Today have only recently discovered and Ten is discovering. Today abandoned their early morning news only bulletin with Sharyn because it was a ratings disaster. Ten are struggling with a fraction of the audience Today gets, which is half or worse than what Sunrise gets.

Sunrise has hit the right formula/mix, and dislike Kochie and/or Mel or not their fan base is large. Today has started to copy the Sunrise formula and the fact is over the second half of the last season picked up ratings because of their cloning Sunrise and drastically cutting their news content.

Sunrise has been increasing audience share by double digit figures year on year for five years now so must be doing something right. I mostly watch Sunrise, channel flick every now and again but like the fact I often goto work with a smile on my face after watching Sunrise. Just seems to make facing the working day that much easier and I'm happier at work (not going to say that's just because of Sunrise but it helps).

I really like Mel (and from the bags of fan mail she gets so do many others) and though he sometimes make me cringe Kochie seems to be a genuine down to earth bloke who just says it like it is and what's on his mind. That's unique in these times presenters are so plastic and must watch every word and inflection otherwise they are jumped on.

Things I dislike most about Today are Alan Jones (why they persist with his piece when monitoring shows there is a massive turn off when he comes on).
Richard Wilkins, why oh why is he given so much profile and why has he been around for so long when much of Today's low esteem with audiences can be traced to Wilco.
The amount of time Today gives to the government, especially John Howard. He often gets interviews  that go over one or two ad breaks and says nothing in all that  time.

Good to see you Boomslanger! We've missed you, well I have at any rate
Good to see you have lost none of your strong points of view and succinct way of posting them. We need to liven up the boards again, we have slipped into a bit of a comfort zone since you went on hiatus and ALLEYCAT went to the US to fetch his lovely fiance back to Australia.

I'm with Boomslanger. I used to watch the National Nine News bulletin at 6am in the morning before Today, it had Mark Fergussen I believe. My dad watched it as well, it was a full, insightful bulletin that covered the whole day's news in 30 minutes. When that was axed, my Dad went to sunrise, but now he has also discovered the TEN bulletin, an belive me, he only watches SBS and ABC. He hates commercial TV news because of the corporate bias, so I was surprized he actually watches it.

I think that TEN is the least bias news service out of all the commercial stations, but the ABC and SBS come out on top. SBS is somewhat bias against the Liberals and especially Bush, but still is very low compated to the commercial counterparts. Nine is by far the most bias. Their business and government connections to the PBL stations (Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne) just sickes me, and since learning about these connections, I refuse to watch their national bulletins and Today.

Ten News, in terms of quality, still has a long way to go. I still think their bulletins are superior to any of their commercial counterparts, such as correspondants in more countries other than the US (such as the Middle East and the UK where many news stories originate from). They also need proper sets, and their look has to become more professional in terms of graphics and studio sets. The current one in Adelaide is horrible, they are floating in water.

Anyway, those are my 2 cents.

Kochie is the most annoying host ever! he says the most inappropriate things too often.  
I tuned to Today as an alternative only to find Karl S does the same.  
What is it with these guys?  Some of their 'banter' is more like pub talk for the blokes. Karl needs to remember that at 7am-8am there are children listening.  Poor Georgie Gardner (news reader) often looks at him in horror and the audience can see tension rising.  

I pity the poor 7 fools who chose Today. Sunrise ROCKS!

The "serious" morning news is not available these days. Pity.

Quoted from blahNii

I tuned to Today as an alternative only to find Karl S does the same.  

I found he's a bit too serious, not "light" or entertaining for the morning news.

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Quoted from s2Matts2

Sunrise ROCKS!

Indeed.

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Quoted from blahNii

Kochie is the most annoying host ever! he says the most inappropriate things too often.  
I tuned to Today as an alternative only to find Karl S does the same.  
What is it with these guys?  Some of their 'banter' is more like pub talk for the blokes. Karl needs to remember that at 7am-8am there are children listening.  Poor Georgie Gardner (news reader) often looks at him in horror and the audience can see tension rising.  

I totally agree there!

Best thing about Karl other than his lovely smile... he can ice skate

Best thing about Kochie.... he knows a hell of a lot about finance

Best thing about Mel.... she's a mother
(sorry but she drives me crazy with her lack of intelligence)

Sexual inuendo and crass adult humour is not for a morning show especially one that airs most of it's content before kids go to school.

The thing with news, like they advertise what will be on it way in advance.. that is not really news then. I know it is but not current. So usually I just use the internet for news

Channel 10 have a good News hour at 6am.  As I am an early riser and am usually back from my walk about 6.15, this is ideal.  No crapping around stuff, interviews or music, just a nice hour of news.  Bliss!

I used to like Today, until they canned Steve Leibman - I cannot stand Karl whatisface, and don't thin much of the new female host either (can't remember her name).