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Hearing about the racist taunts from the crowds at the cricket, it disgusts me how people can be so shallow to players from South Africa and Sri Lanka to degrade them like that !!
I say to those minority of offending fans, cut it out with all the insults !!
I don't think it's any different when we go over there. You are going to cop some sort of abuse when you are on the field, whether a player or a referee like myself. You just ignore it and get on with it.
It's the Aussie way to taunt people to put them off their game, and obviously if their skin is another colour they will get picked on eg Wendell Sailor. Murali is a chucker so he should be used to it.
and Warne is an SMS pervert, so he should get taunted too? Much as I dislike him and his morals (or lack thereof) he should not be taunted for his "disability", nor should anyone be taunted for their skin colour. As for Murali being a chucker, that was TEN years ago, so we need to move ON!
I agree with Phantom..I doubt it's any different for us when we play overseas...I went to the cricket in England once...England playing Pakistan...some of the comments from the crowd against the Pakistanis were pretty horrid...and I heard an interview with Andrew Symonds where he said he's been given some pretty nasty insults when playing in other countries
Which doesn't make it right...just ubiquitous I guess...if you can't sledge their performance (and let's face it Warney's a frigging legend with that ball so waddaya gonna pick on) you gotta pick on something else...the players do it...the crowd does it
I wish they would all keep their mouths shut but that's never gonna happen
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rascism ! ...is this word getting overused now or what ? ..are people milking this ' oh he called me this or that " or what !
come ashes time - i'll be so anti England its not funny . we owe them big time !
reminds me of a little cocky kid that losers with just about every game in his life - then one day..actually wins one , but proceeds to go on and on and on about it as if he's been winning for years - not realising that he'll once again, just loose everything again come play time ! ( England !..to me this just shows your lack of experience with winning .. teams usually celebrate ..then shut up later just incase they end up looking stupid ...well, too late for you,co's their still going !)
gee's a better side plays s**t at a time they should'nt, then gets beaten because of it - and the delusion English think they are genuinly consistantly better ! pmsl ...
not forgetting that England hate us ....we're just the " convict country" remember !
personally i just think (once again) that their spewing and cant get over the fact that the convicts ended up in a better land !
Hair drops lawsuit against PCB: reports Australian umpire Darrell Hair has dropped his racial discrimination lawsuit against the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), according to media reports.
Hair, who was sacked from the International Cricket Council's (ICC's) elite panel of umpires after Pakistan complained about his role in a ball-tampering row in England last August, announced he was taking legal action against the PCB and ICC earlier this month.
"We are not surprised he has dropped his outrageous allegation of racism against us," a PCB official said, according to reports.
The reports indicated that Hair had not, however, dropped his lawsuit against the ICC.
Pakistan refused to continue a Test match at The Oval after Hair and fellow umpire Billy Doctrove changed the ball and charged the Pakistanis with ball-tampering.
Hair and Doctrove eventually awarded the match to England.
The ICC had said it believed there was no merit to Hair's claim.
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hi, i don't think the racisist remarks are limited to the crowd, i think the players do it too and way too much sledging. i think australian cricket players and the australian crowds take the game too seriously instead of the fun game it is suppose to be. i remember a game in sydney when brian lara came out to bat and the crowd booed him and the australian players were throwing insults with their sleding left right and centre. brian lara answered by scoring over 200 runs. tiredness got him out in the end. think the australian crowds and players are as bad as each other. get back to the womens cricket! women invented the game and play it in the spirit it should be played. for the love of the game! thats my 2 cents worth.
It appears that racism has onve agin reared its ugly head. After the abuse Symonds copped in India, it's awful to contemplate it's happening on the field.
Harbhajan banned over Symonds abuse
Indian off-spinner Harbhajan Singh has been banned for three Tests after the International Cricket Council ruled that he racially abused Australia's Andrew Symonds during the just-finished Test at the Sydney Cricket Ground.
The Australians complained that Harbhajan called Symonds a "monkey" during day three of the second Test.
Match referee Mike Procter says he is satisfied that Harbhajan used the word and that he intended to offend Symonds on the basis of his race.
Harbhajan denied the charge and India says it will appeal against the decision.
India lost the match in dramatic circumstances yesterday evening, with Australia taking three wickets in the final 10 minutes to secure a 122-run win.
At his post-match press conference last night India captain Anil Kumble launched an astonishing attack on Australia's cricketers, accusing them of breaching the spirit of the game.
Asked by Indian journalists about Australia's tactics, Kumble echoed something similar to the immortal line used by the Australian captain Bill Woodfull during the 1932-33 Bodyline series against England.
"Only one team was playing with the spirit of the game," Kumble said.
But Australia captain Ricky Ponting has defended his team's actions, rejecting Kumble's suggestion that they claimed questionable catches.
"Anil and I before the series started got together and we actually said that that was the way we'd be playing the series," he said.
"If there was a contentious catch, unless the fielder was 100 per cent sure that he caught it, that the captains would let the umpire know either way."
The Australians complained that Harbhajan called Symonds a "monkey" during day three of the second Test.
Does the fact the guy looks like a monkey come into the loop at all??
These guys get paid a bucket load for hitting a ball with a stick SUCK IT UP GUYS!!
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Does the fact the guy looks like a monkey come into the loop at all??
These guys get paid a bucket load for hitting a ball with a stick SUCK IT UP GUYS!!
Cmon, even i know you cant call a black guy a monkey. Thats just wrong. The way i see it, you can heckle me, you can call me names and you can even say nasty things about my mum, you just cant racially abuse someone.
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For goodness sake, calling someone a monkey is racist and discriminating. Call a fat person a hippo and see what happens! I think Symonds is quite good looking, the reason he may resemble anything other than a human is because of his white zinc around his mouth. At least he wont get cancer there and his lips must me supple and moist, very kissable. Some of these people hurling racist abuse at others should have a long hard look at themselves! Otherwise, I personally could care less about the Cricket because of all the sport in the world it is MY least favourite. Cancel the Test, don't cancel the Test, resume the Test, I don't really care, just glad I can't get channel 9 when the weather is...... humid, damp, raining, windy, overcast! To get 9 it needs to be perfect and clear weather wise. It's my set top box, you see and channel 9 is at the top of the High Def band, I have been told by experts.
Does the fact the guy looks like a monkey come into the loop at all??
In your opinion maybe, because, of course, you're perfect, right?
There had been plenty of discussion about the term before the Australian test season began, and it was agreed the term was used in a racist manner and is racist.
In your opinion maybe, because, of course, you're perfect, right?
Well I've never considered myself perfect but if you want to think I am it is certainly your right!
Calling someone a monkey is not racist, it's demeaning but I do not see how it is racially motivated
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Racism is just not cricket Article from: The Courier-Mail Roly Sussex January 12, 2008 12:04am
LET us concentrate on the result of the second cricket Test muddied by the racism controversy over Harbhajan Singh and Andrew Symonds.
Symonds had been subjected to offensive "woop-woop" monkey-barracking from the crowd during two of the matches in India last year. The Australian Cricket Board properly resolved not to have any revenge barracking from the bleachers during the current series in Australia.
The alleged insult from Singh to Symonds involved the uttering of one word – "monkey" – which was not overheard by either umpire. Singh said the interchange was part of routine talk between the players. Symonds has been publicly silent on the matter.
Racism in sport is vile. The 1936 Olympics were obnoxious precisely for that reason. We have had intermittent flare-ups of racism in our Australian football codes in recent years. There was also a cricket incident in 2002, when an Australian cricketer was suspended for several matches for allegedly using "black (expletive deleted)" in earshot of the opponents' dressing room.
I suspect that these public corrections of racism have been brought about by a much greater sensitivity to racial issues, supported by legislation and promoted by codes of conduct for the players. I'd be surprised if it hasn't been endemic to competitive sports for centuries. We have grown up in our attitudes to race, at least to some extent. And high time, too.
Anti-racial legislation prohibits behaviour, verbal or other, which denigrates anyone on the grounds of racial classification or physical appearance. Ethnicity is not a free-for-all for jibes, barbs or bad-taste humour. Jewish jokes, Polish jokes, references to a "nappy-headed ho" in American radio programs – all this is off-limits. And rightly so.
But, and here we need to be careful, it can be much more complex than that. The case against Singh is alleged to rest on the uttering of a single word – "monkey".
First, a word may not be denigrating. Some words, by current misuse and abuse, have become very sensitive: "black", "black person", "gook", "slope-heads" and the like. It also depends on who is talking to whom. Afro-Americans can call each other "black person". This is not permissible for whites.
Second, this list of offensive words is not the same in all cultures. Australians can use "bastard" in an avuncular sense which is much less recognised in many other countries. The Indian team claims that one of their number was addressed as "bastard" by an Australian player. In India, social mores mean that this is more hurtful than in Australia, where its use is colloquial and often unremarkable. "Monkey", for that matter, is not simple either. The respected Indian cricket commentator Harsha Bhogle explained that "bandar", the word for "monkey" in Hindi (India's biggest language), is commonly used in an endearing fashion, for example from parents to children. This is also true of English – "you clever little monkey". But the Symonds case had already been associated with the "woop-woop" chanting and monkey allusions from the crowds in India. The potentially jocular use of "monkey" had already been compromised.
Third, a word itself, out of context and without the tone of voice, body language and other factors, is only a small part of the story. Irony and sarcasm, as well as vituperation, can be enhanced and intensified, or softened, by voice factors and body language. Without that information it is impossible to know how a word was said, or to work out the speaker's intention, which is at least as important as the sounds of the word themselves.
Political correctness has been responsible for making us very sensitive to a range of issues relating to race, gender, religion, sexual preference, age and other factors. It has done us a good service by making such issues a matter of public awareness, and obliging us to behave in a more considerate manner.
White Australians, though, are not often the object of racism or racist language. "Ugly Australian" is mild, and incomparably less wounding than the words that white Australians have directed to Aboriginal people. Being the butt of racist language in non-Aboriginal Australia is a new, disagreeable and self-revealing experience.
As to the cricket, now a somewhat besmirched icon, I would put in two heartfelt pleas.
The first plea is for dignity.
The second plea is that we should all lighten up. The team captains might have been able to sort this issue out. An explanation, a handshake, an apology, not public but in the presence of the captains, could have laid all this to rest.
We tend to react fast and defensively to things which we perceive as possible insults. There is a chance that whatever Singh did say, and however he said it, was no worse than bad taste. That case needs to be heard.
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