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SuziH
January 26, 2006, 7:06am Report to Moderator

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BSquared mentioned Oprah in another thread and I wondered how eBlahers feel about her. Is she a publicity seeker, does she drive you mad? Do you think she is a terrific person who does a lot of good for many people? Do you think she is condescending? Should she of let Tom Cruise jump all over that lovely lounge?
Tell us what YOU think, don't hold back now.


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Gizmo
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I used to like Oprah years ago . .but lately she has gone on a crusade to help the world 'Oprah Style' . .too much 'me me me "

I now only peek in to see any good stories she does besides the book club and fat things. . overdone now.

Her expose about the 'bastardisation' in the USA Navy was very good. . there should be more of that instead  . .  and more interesting guests.
 


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I don't really care, though sometimes I am annoyed.  Sometimes I feel guilty for being annoyed, she appears to be do more than I do but we'de have to comapare percentages of money to be sure though she most certainly activley and physically does more than me.  Funny that I wouldn't propose to compare percentages with anyone else but the thought crossed my head with a high profile person like that.  My wife likes her so I see her show on occasion and it's usually annoying but sometimes entertaining.

I'm still really really really upset that I didn't get a car.   <--That's the smiley for when I can't find just the right one.  It somehow fits better than nothing most of the time.
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The Nanny
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she's okay but when she makes those jokes that aren't even funny   that is annoying


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If you look at how much she earns, and how much she gives away, it wouldn't really be that impressive. Probably equal to a normal $50K a year person sponsering a couple of kids. So really, thats good, but its not as impressive as ppl make it out to be. I think she's very overated. I know of ppl who quietly give away 90% of their income to all kinds of worthy causes...

And if you listen to the gossip, she's apparently a closet lesbian having an affair with her best friend Gayle, and her relationship with Stedman is fake... heh heh!


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I asked you not to go there Suzi  

But since you did…I will count the ways she annoys the heck outa me in a moment.  

First let me say that I do admire the fact she dragged her way out of what was clearly a tough upbringing with not a lot of privileges.  For an overweight, black woman (3 strikes baby) to do what she has done in the American media is a damn big achievement and I truly do admire that achievement.

But she still annoys the heck out of me and, regardless of how difficult it is, I avoid her in my life.  I avoid the daytime show, the “specials”, the magazine, the website, the podcast (I’m sure she’ll have one soon if she doesn’t already)...the whole damn lot.

1) Whenever she interviews someone she spends as much or more air time talking about herself as she spends talking about her guest – eg: “How do YOU feel about paparazzi” and before her guest can draw breath she starts in with “…I hate them…let me tell you about the last time they followed ME”.  Frankly I already know too much about her...I might be mildly interested in hearing what her guests have to say once-in-a-while.

2) She has this great need to tell us her every waking movement…”I went shopping here”, “I did this”, “I gave away X dollars to this person”.  All I can think is that she has major insecurity issues to talk about herself so much.  The people I admire do not spend all their time talking about the good they do…they just get out and do good without the bragging.

3) She believes her own publicity and uses her influence & power to the detriment of humanity.  Let’s take Doctor bloody Phil for example.  Did the world need another stupidly-grinning, self-important bloke with a convenient 44 minute answer to every problem ever faced by a human being?  No.  I reckon Oprah spent a day wondering just how far she could push the envelope of people’s stupid, blind acceptance and now she’s laughing at us.  I’d rather believe that than believe she likes that git.

4) She treats her audience like fools…she repeats everything over and over and over again because clearly she thinks they can’t understand a simple concept until it is rammed down their throats.   I don’t think Oprah is stupid….surely she can do her audience the courtesy of treating them as intelligent people.

5) She takes everything personally.  Very personally.  Anyone who says anything critical of her is automatically a racist or sexist.  Can she not accept that some people just aren’t gonna like her?  I have a gay friend who’s the same…if someone doesn’t like him he says they’re homophobic.  I really really really hate that attitude.  Some folks are not gonna like other folks...it doesn't automatically mean it's a hate crime for pity's sake.

They’re my top 5 reasons why I’m not a fan of Oprah (you did ask Suzi).  

I have a longer list but I think that’s enough.  

For today.


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And for that I thank you BSquared and others who added their views of Oprah.


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Yeah that was a fun read.  Made me smile so I agree with most of it.

And if Oprah truly cared, she would have given me a car  
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Quoted from MeanDean

. . . . . And if Oprah truly cared, she would have given me a car  


You want the Tax problems that brought the recipients?. .      .6mth later they all complained about having to pay tax on the cars. . some had to sell them. . .but maybe those people were 'homeless' and could not afford the running costs.  . . it could be a risky thing to do as well . .giving cars away to any 'willy-nilly person.  What if it went to a drunk driver or somebody with no licence?. . or worse still. . to a person in the middle of a messy divorce. .   where property is being split?.  . .( personally I think the whole thing was a *look at me*  stunt but it might have been OK for some who could use the cars as intended.



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That's exactly my point.  If someone is going to senselessly throw money around in a look at me stunt that involves a car, and I don't own a car but instead ride around in the car my wife's employer gave her that could be taken from her at any time, then the look at me stunt... well it was a "Look At Me, I Care About People" stunt, so it means that she doesn't care about me.

I forgot about the tax thing.  I could sell it and buy a used car though.  

Edit: Ha, I'm somehow glad that they complained... I need help  
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I am so glad I am not alone in my feelings about princess oprah - I made the mistake of saying something anti-oprah in the US once - was lucky to make it out of the room alive - Iim sure they don't all love her but the people I was with behaved as if I'd sacrificed a small child or something.


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What about when they receive the gifts on those special days several times a year. It is all self promoting. Oprah would not 'buy' the items she 'gives' away. They would be donated by the companies that make/sell them. Not sure about the cars though but the smaller items definitely. Then she is like a big advertisement/promotion for these products when she is showing these things on her show and giving them away. I do enjoy about 1 in 5 of her shows and will watch it if the subject/guest interests me.


Yes BSquared, they may be allowed to diss one of their own but by golly, don't we dare!


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Had to laugh at this mornings news of Oprah . .she promoted a book called " A Million Little Pieces' .on her book club.
The author has since been exposed as a liar. . .she called in to the Larry King Show on air live to defend they guy . .and the lies got worse.

She had him on her show yesterday (USA time) .and then reprimanded him and said she felt 'duped'. . .(well miss Oprah . .piggies with snouts in the trough cannot complain about getting 'shmutz' on their faces)
   


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About the car incident, every person who was given their car was told in great detail about the tax thing, and what they would have to pay for etc etc... they were given documents to sign to say they understood it and everything, before they were allowed to take their cars. Also, the cars went to ppl nomiated by others who they felt truely deserved a car. The ppl working on the show did a lot of research on each person, to make sure they were geniune.

But it was amazing that Oprah got all the glory when it was Chrysler (I think they were the company) who gave away the cars! It happens every year at Christmas, Oprah appears to 'gives' the audience tens of thousansd worth of free goods, but its really the companies giving their goods away in exchange for advertizing - probably a good trade! Whats a couple hundred thou in goods in exchange for millions of dollars of free advertising on Oprah TV, magazine and internet site?


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I agree with BSquared here.  She's too plastic for me to be a fan.


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