Saying sorry would simply foster an environment for reconciliation !!
i doubt it ..
not that we would'nt genuinely regret the past 200 years with whats been done, a genuine oppology from Howard simply will not end there... and despite any of us currently living & not being the guilty party's involved from that far back, an oppology as sincere as it should be meant , will simply result in MASSIVE compensation claims ! ...and not just an oppology acceptance or knockback - this is the bit that would turn Howard off and a hell of alot of people, myself included.
if by some chance there was a legal - no loophole - exclusion of claiming compensation that would result from this SORRY admittance....then Howard would probably oppologise tomorrow.
personally, with all the carry on i've seen of late and cryingwolf displays with differant protests' .. MONEY seems to always be behind alot of things they do now. this is not helping public opinion, its self harming to themselves....and will only just back up even more, many peoples sceptisism.
I didn't say saying sorry would fix everything, all I'm saying is it needs to be done to begin the process of moving forward.
Aboriginal people have not even begun to move forward yet because of what they are being denied.
I think the Government is playing the "wait til they all cross-breed into white Australia or die off" tactic.
Whenever you wrong someone or someone wrongs you, you can't begin to move forward or forgive or be forgiven until either party says sorry first.
Be careful not to judge the majority by the actions of a few. After all, I don't think we'd like it if other cultures thought we were all like those bad footballers.
John Howard should apologise on behalf of the Australian Government for the treatment of Aboriginal people over the last 200 years. . . . . . .
He simply can't do it! . . .if he does, there will be a constitutional crisis you and me could never afford.
As Prime Minister, John H DOES speak on behalf of the Australian people. If he says sorry for past missdeeds the lawsuits will fly thick and fast.
We all feel sorry for the lost generation and actions like that should never have happened but saying sorry to todays Aboriginals will only cause greed to rise and money will be the main issue. Give these people good education and solid work prospects to build their dignity . . that is how sorry gets said effectively.
Aboriginal culture is being lost due to many pressures but mainly because it was/is not a strong enough culture to withstand the worlds demands. They are not the first people this has happened to and they won't be the last. . . aussies have handed our culture over to the yanks for years. . . one day we will too disappear as an identity.
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He simply can't do it! . . .if he does, there will be a constitutional crisis you and me could never afford.
As Prime Minister, John H DOES speak on behalf of the Australian people. If he says sorry for past missdeeds the lawsuits will fly thick and fast.
We all feel sorry for the lost generation and actions like that should never have happened but saying sorry to todays Aboriginals will only cause greed to rise and money will be the main issue. Give these people good education and solid work prospects to build their dignity . . that is how sorry gets said effectively.
Aboriginal culture is being lost due to many pressures but mainly because it was/is not a strong enough culture to withstand the worlds demands. They are not the first people this has happened to and they won't be the last. . . aussies have handed our culture over to the yanks for years. . . one day we will too disappear as an identity.
Adolf Hitler and you share the same caring nature towards those less fortunate inferior racial types ,your right too ,if only those poor stupid less advanced natives had prioritised the more important things like making guns and shooting anything that looked different to them,they would have all been a lot better off.Howard does not speak on behalf of me or nearly half the people in Australia who did not vote for him,but then maybe we should all be taken out and shot till only those enlightened types like you ,Johny and the rest of the red-necks are left alive to carry on with your far more advanced and superior racial ,cultural and religious ideals. You are so right,good on you for pointing that out,MASTER.
You'd better dob me into the political correctness commision ASAP
Question: Why does John Howard need to apologise for the stolen generation or anything else he had absolutely no part in. Now that Afganistan has a new government should they be handing out sorrys to all? "yeah ummm harbouring terrorist groups even though terrorists had control of the country, big oops on our part, so red faced about that"
He has to because he has gone on record stating that what was done in the past was perfectly acceptable in light of the religious and social normals at the time. So lets just get this right your saying that the stolen generation were all terrorists or were they just harbouring terrorists?,your brilliant you could be president of the U.S.A. anytime(no you couldn't your a foreigner)
Adolf Hitler and you share the same caring nature towards those less fortunate inferior racial types ,your right too ,if only those poor stupid less advanced natives had prioritised the more important things like making guns and shooting anything that looked different to them,they would have all been a lot better off.Howard does not speak on behalf of me or nearly half the people in Australia who did not vote for him,but then maybe we should all be taken out and shot till only those enlightened types like you ,Johny and the rest of the red-necks are left alive to carry on with your far more advanced and superior racial ,cultural and religious ideals. You are so right,good on you for pointing that out,MASTER.
You had better learn to read more effectively. I do not say anywhere there that I agreee with J.H. Nor do I think Aborigines are 'weak'.
As Prime Minister J.H DOES speak on behalf of this nation . .(and I have never voted . . least of all for him). But as the political leader of this country he has to abide by more strict confines than you or me. We would say 'sorry;' in a minute. . (as members here who know me). . know I would do it in the blink of an eye.
You have seriously misjudged me and now to members who know me a bit better than you do . . your comments look 'red-necked'.
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John Howard should apologise for the stolen generation? Yet he himself had absolutely nothing to do with it.....
hmm maybe not, but it wouldn't hurt; if nothing it might appease someone.
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Do gay couples need to be married? Why can they start having children after that point or something
Marriage isn't just for having children you know
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Maybe the single mums should have listened a little harder in sex ed class, maybe they should become gay and that way want to get married before attempting to have children
I detect a lot of sarcasm here. At least I hope I do, otherwise that's most unfair on single mothers. Only a handful fit that category. I am not commenting on the rest, as I think it is said tongue in cheek.
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You must have seen atleast 1 pic of Kimbo and screamed "push it back out to sea". Of coarse the MP should have been spoken to about use of language, but parliament is just a formal name for 'huge girlie name calling slap fest'. Someone from the ALP should call mandy a hippo and see what kind of response it sparks
That's just rude and unnecessary. Making fun of someone for a disability is plain wrong.
That's just rude and unnecessary. Making fun of someone for a disability is plain wrong.
Wait, since when is being over weight a disability? The last photo I saw of Kim was taken in a KFC drive through???
I work long and hard to keep my body healthy, I also volunteer with the mentally and physically disabled twice a week. I take them for long walks, and some of them for bike rides, and hikes, and skating.
Argue if you wish but being overweight is a choice not a disability.
~It is great to be blonde. With low expectations it's so easy to surprise people. - Pamela Anderson~
...Argue if you wish but being overweight is a choice not a disability.
Not true and I'll argue that until the cows come home. A disability is something that hinders or incapacitates or is a disadvantage. If you think being overweight isn't a disability, then try talking to the poor woman or man for whom it is just that. It's not always about overeating you know!
It's about keeping an already fragile body as healthy as it can be. I am sure that being obese could disable you from certain activities and you may get to the point where you are immobile, but to be classified disabled is very selective.
I have no sympathy for over weight people. The concept is simple, eat less, excercise more. If you choose to lead an unhealthy lifestyle then that is your choice just don't put yourself in the same category as those who are disabled from birth, or by accident. Obsesity isn't accidently, and if you are genetically overweight, then take active steps to save your body, your heart, and your over all health.
~It is great to be blonde. With low expectations it's so easy to surprise people. - Pamela Anderson~
Resorting to law suits only makes the lawyers rich.
After years of very expensive legal battles over the infamous 'Hindmarsh Island Bridge' . . and in the end the aborigines at the heart of the 'land claim' admitted they cooked up their idea to be a major nuisance over a drunken campfire night. . .they knew all along that the 'claim' of 'sacred sites' was false.
The cost to everyone involved was horrible. No amount of money can repay the 'lost generation' now and any money offered would bring more harm to an already fragile population of aboriginal people. A grand payout would last 1-2 years and the elder women will then point to an increase in drunkenness and abuse.
Millions in housing aid has been wasted by the cultural bent they have to 'help your brother'. . so it all got spent on bus fares and accomodation so they could all meet to 'discuss' how the money should be spent. There was nothing left to do any actual building.
Elder women are the ones who tell us that the help is best given as education and work programms that give self esteem back to their communities. . it has worked for some. . but others are too lazy and whinging to give it a go. . .that is the opinion of many ABORIGINAL people themselves.
The word sorry becomes moot when no effective action is taken to really help a needy people.
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