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I agree. How rare was he in todays Political world?!


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Group think in action on this board.  
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A lasting impression
Karen Kissane
The Age - February 19, 2006
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/02/19/1140283950493.html


Australians are grumpy about John Howard?s handling of health. They are unsure of education. They oppose the war on Iraq and are wary of IR changes. And yet ? they like the Prime Minister. It seems that if the economy?s good, Australians are willing to forgive almost anything, writes Karen Kissane.
JOHN Howard has won some and lost some in the 10 years he has been prime minister. He has won Robert Hancock, 44, a father of two from Wangaratta who did not vote for him in 1996 but has become a convert.

"He?s a pretty solid PM ? pretty honest," says Hancock. "The way he gets a handle on the economy is the best thing he does. You don?t have high inflation and rates going through the roof."

Hancock, who manages a printing company, has been won over by the continued economic prosperity: "It all gets back to quality of life." But Bruce Denton has shifted in the opposite direction. He helped vote Howard into power in 1996 but now, "I hate him. I feel like throwing a shoe when I see him on TV." Denton has never forgiven the Prime Minister for reneging on his promise not to introduce the GST, and he blames the atmosphere created by the Government?s new industrial laws for his unemployment.

The contract sign fitter worked for the same employer for nine years.

"These industrial relations things ? I threw my job in and I blame him because the place I worked for wanted to cut my rates by 10 per cent. And I?ve done a stupid thing because now I am out of work and I?m 63 years old and who?s going to employ me?"

There is a political lesson in these stories. As former prime minister Paul Keating discovered when interest rates skyrocketed, voters are unforgiving of leaders who are seen to have damaged their economic position. Conversely, it seems that a prime minister who is seen as keeping the economy ticking over has little to fear, whatever his perceived failings.

Howard has turned into the man we love to be in two minds about.

Ten years into his reign, he is seen by most Australians as providing strong leadership in uncertain times and as "bringing home the bacon" ? a glowing 83 per cent of voters who rated the economy as the main issue believe he has managed the economy well or quite well.

Hancock, who was polled by The Age, is one of the 46 per cent who believe they are better off under the Howard Government.

Many are not so happy with other areas of his stewardship. They think Australia is now a less fair society, they question the PM?s honesty, and they see him as a divisive leader who wrongly took Australia to war in Iraq. Howard is also seen to have done poorly on health and education.

For most voters, however, these misgivings do not translate into wanting to give him the boot.

Ed Hallett, of Elwood, is a 26-year-old who works in IT and studies part-time at university. He admires Howard?s ability to take a tough stand in the face of opposition, as well as his economic management and the place he has carved out for himself on the world stage.

"The Australian dollar has gone up and the national debt has gone down and, overseas, people know who he is," he says.

"I have travelled through Europe and Asia and the US and, before, most people didn?t even know where Australia was, but they now know who this short little prime minister is who runs around the world all the time."

Social researcher Hugh Mackay says Howard "is the most complex politician I have ever studied. There are so many contradictions. He does not have a simple kind of profile ? it runs the full spectrum from high respect to deep loathing.

"And most responses are mixed: voters who like him confess to reservations, and voters who dislike him acknowledge they also have a reluctant respect for him."

According to his former chief of staff, Grahame Morris, Howard has a gift for divining the views of middle Australia, to the point where, when he holds to a view that is clearly unpopular, "voters think, ?You?re wrong, tiger, but we?ll give you the benefit of the doubt.?"

Across a broad range of voters, Howard is seen as reassuringly solid and reliable, a known quantity. Says Mackay: "He enjoys increasing respect without much affection. A lot of the respect is almost grudging; people finally have to admit that he?s a stayer, that his big characteristic is a combination of persistence and political skill."

Howard is a politician whose popularity has swung wildly over the years but whose tenure as prime minister has seen him grow in stature.

"In the mid-80s, you couldn?t give him away," says Morris. But in March 1996, Australians decided that they preferred him to what they saw as an arrogant, out-of-touch Paul Keating.

Morris says polling then showed that voters "thought of him as ?Uncle John? and liked his values".

In his decade as PM, Howard?s popularity has often spiked following tragedies of historic proportions.

In 1996, his tough stance on gun control following the Port Arthur massacre helped turn him, according to one poll, into the most popular leader in a decade.

He won an almost unwinnable election in 2001 with his response to the September 11 terrorist attacks and his handling of the asylum seekers on the Tampa, which convinced many people who would otherwise have been Labor voters that he would protect the nation against "illegal immigrants".

Australians also admired him for sending troops to East Timor in 1999, and for his tough and eloquent responses to the first Bali bombing in 2002, when he passed emergency laws to enable the arrest of al-Qaeda sympathisers and spoke of the need to "wrap our arms around not only our fellow Australians, but ? the people of Indonesia".

Voters like him less when the statesman is seen as giving way to the politician. His personal standing crashed in February 2002 when more than half the electorate believed he had intentionally misled them over the "children overboard" affair.

They were more forgiving over Iraq?s missing weapons of mass destruction, with 70 per cent believing either that he told the truth about the reasons for going to war or unintentionally gave the wrong reasons.

His approval nosedived again last November, following unpopular changes to workplace laws.

Mackay says Howard is not seen as a charismatic leader. "A lot of people say he makes them cringe; there are aspects of his style that people find a bit (embarrassing). He?s so lacking in a visionary, inspirational style; he?s so pedestrian.

"But even that, as he himself says, is suited to the times, a time of fairly consistent anxiety and uncertainty."

Some argue that Australians have never been big on "the vision thing" anyway. Grahame Morris scoffs at the term "visionary".

"I hate that word. I have never met an Australian yet who got out of bed and said, ?Oh dear, I?m going back into bed because no one gave me a vision.? It?s crap," he says. "I just don?t think Australians work like that.

Most people live their lives around family and children and bills and mortgages and footy and mates, and politics comes in at number 12 ? unless they?re angry. At the moment, through John Howard?s leadership, you rarely have an angry Australia."

That?s possibly because of the Prime Minister?s management of potentially disgruntled voters. Wayne Errington, a politics lecturer at Charles Sturt University in NSW, is co-writing a biography of Howard. He says his continued popularity after so many years in office is remarkable.

"Usually, after you have been a prime minister for a while, you have managed to offend quite a few interest groups, so you have (what the pollsters call) ?high negatives?," he says. He attributes the PM?s position to his ability to learn from his mistakes, such as unpopular proposed changes to aged care ? "he?s famous now for being strong, but he was quite famous for his backflips" ? and to his targeting of groups that might be disadvantaged by his policies.

Nancye Coulson, 76, has one of the benefits created by the Howard Government: a veteran?s gold card, "so I am looked after in a way I couldn?t afford otherwise".

Coulson, who was interviewed for the Saulwick AgePoll, likes Howard and admires his ability to make strong decisions even when they are unpopular. But she worries for her friends with big health bills, and finds that increases in her pension are not keeping up with increases in the cost of living; her savings are dwindling.

None of these doubts, however, is likely to lead her to vote against Howard at the next election.

"There?s no one I can see who could take his place and do the job to the standard that he has done," she says.

For those who dislike Howard, the feeling is intense. Zosia Romanowski, 25, an office manager from Reservoir, says "there have been a number of events with a certain scandal, such as the children overboard affair, and he?s just turned around and said, ?I didn?t know about that.? He?s the leader of the party and the leader of Australia, and he should know," she says.

Romanowski fears that the industrial relations changes will leave workers vulnerable in an economic downturn, that the war on terror has set back multicultural tolerance by 20 or 30 years, and that Australia under Howard has become "a little meaner".

"Nobody wants to pay for things they don?t use themselves. Wealthy people complain about propping up the state health and education systems because they don?t use them."

Middle-class and aspirational voters are central to Howard?s support. Pollster Irving Saulwick says the PM?s backers include established middle-class people who dislike disorder and to whom a growing economy is important.

"They value progress as material progress," he says.

A second constituency is the Pauline Hanson-style battlers, including those who have found a foothold in the consumer society and are desperately trying to hold on to it, as well as people who are poor and jealous of what they see as "hand-outs" to other groups.

"They are the resentful battlers. I think he?s given indications to them that he doesn?t favour giving special treatment to other minority groups," Saulwick says.

He says Howard is disliked by a "mix of lefties" who are influenced by a broad ideology rather than notions of class war. Some are so antagonistic to the Prime Minister that they dislike everything from his looks to his body language. The unemployed Denton is one whose dislike of the Prime Minister is now all-embracing. "The economy is in his favour but what worries me is manufacturing in Australia. Nylex closed its factory and another 120 people are out of business."

Denton is resigned to the fact that many people he speaks to do not share his views. "People who are well off don?t care, they don?t take an interest," he says. "They are sort of, ?I?m OK, Jack.?" He admits: "I probably would be there myself if I had done as well."

Former US president Bill Clinton famously campaigned on how, "it?s the economy, stupid". According to this poll, John Howard survives by the same principle ? at least for now.


"People who are well off don't care, they don't take an interest"

Pretty much sums up your average john howard voter .. What a selfish bunch of pr*cks we all are!
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Pretty much sums up your average john howard voter .. What a selfish bunch of pr*cks we all are!


Speak for yourself. I didn't vote for him - ever. And never ever will.

He is just one of the people you describe. Rich and couldn't care less about anyone else than himself. But that goes for most Politicians (was going to say all, but there just might be one honest one somewhere). They only want to get in there so that even if they get voted out the next time, they still get all lthe perks for the rest of their life anyway. They all have intentions of getting voted into office so that they can make a difference - to their financial future.
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Well no surprise that I voted for him and will continue to do so given the opportunity (although strictly speaking nobody votes for anyone other than their representative). On the other hand I know of nobody who voted for that loser Latham or who would vote for the second biggest loser Beasley - or at least none that would be dumb enough to admit to it.  Can you think of more than one politician in the Greens or Labor who have any real life experience or talent at all other than Union hacks, activistism or teacher preacher goons? - nah me neither!

If Latham was the best on offer and he went down in a pall of flames and 2-time loser Beasley is the next best thing on offer....I don't think JH (or Costello or Abbott or Turnbull or ?) has a thing to worry about. Why is it that the ALP is the only party where it's ex-PM's end up multi-millionaires when they're finished? (rhetorical). The Australian Labor Party is like Australia's version of the Mafia. They are a nasty bunch of hypocritical suckholes that believe in nothing except themselves, have no convictions (other than legal ones) and will be condemned for a whole generation at least. Thankyou God/Shiva/Allah/Gaia....and thank you dear reader.  
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More proof that voters are a few sandwiches short of a picnic .. the exact things they are worried about - health, education and aged care - is exactly what this government is destroying!

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PM still loves his job after a decade
Monday Feb 27 08:53 AEDT

Prime Minister John Howard says that after a decade in the top job he still enjoys it.

Mr Howard notches up 10 years as prime minister this week and a poll has revealed that most Australians want him to stay in the position.

He said that he still enjoyed the job and found it stimulating.

"Let me simply say this: I very much enjoy the job," he told the Nine Network.

"I'm very stimulated by it.

"I've still got, along with my colleagues, a lot of ideas and I'll just keep working very hard for the Australian people."

The prime minister joked that the pollsters probably spoke to his family members.

"It's a very nice poll and I think they were talking to my extended family," he said.

According to a poll conducted by the Daily Telegraph, most wanted Mr Howard to be the country's leader for several more years and wanted him to contest the next election.

Out of 500 voters surveyed across the state in marginal and key seats, only 75 favoured Mr Costello to take over the leadership reins.

The areas where voters were worried included health, education and aged care.


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Well no surprise that I voted for him and will continue to do so given the opportunity (although strictly speaking nobody votes for anyone other than their representative). On the other hand I know of nobody who voted for that loser Latham or who would vote for the second biggest loser Beasley - or at least none that would be dumb enough to admit to it.  Can you think of more than one politician in the Greens or Labor who have any real life experience or talent at all other than Union hacks, activistism or teacher preacher goons? - nah me neither!

If Latham was the best on offer and he went down in a pall of flames and 2-time loser Beasley is the next best thing on offer....I don't think JH (or Costello or Abbott or Turnbull or ?) has a thing to worry about. Why is it that the ALP is the only party where it's ex-PM's end up multi-millionaires when they're finished? (rhetorical). The Australian Labor Party is like Australia's version of the Mafia. They are a nasty bunch of hypocritical suckholes that believe in nothing except themselves, have no convictions (other than legal ones) and will be condemned for a whole generation at least. Thankyou God/Shiva/Allah/Gaia....and thank you dear reader.  


Sounds to me like you just described the Liberal party. Actually, none are better than the other. Once they get elected it's all about feathering your own nest. Why do you think Howard has stayed around so long? Because he is good? All he does is cover everything up and then when it comes out, lie about it. "We never knew" eg Tampa, AWB. Downer is the same. They all are. Howard still has his head so far up Bush's backside looking for WMD's that he wouldn't know what was going on in his own backyard. He is just a suckhole riding on real leader's coattails and travelling around on junkets at our expense.

I really wonder who they called to take the poll on whether they liked JH to stay on. Must have been in Bennelong. Everyone (except Srekwah) reckons he sucks. GST is a failure as admitted by Costello, nobody can afford to fill up their car becasue of taxes, we are the most taxed society in the world.

They should all resign immediately. And without the limos, flights and all the other perks that we pay for for life as well.
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I really wonder who they called to take the poll on whether they liked JH to stay on. Must have been in Bennelong. Everyone (except Srekwah) reckons he sucks.


I wonder the same thing. So many people dislike him, actually dislike is too nice, more like hate him.

But then again those who do vote for him (based on low interest rates which he doesn't have much control over, and security which he actually made worse for us by going to Iraq), are too embarrassed to admit to it.

I guess the Latham trainwreck was responsible for him winning the last election. But then again I thought Latham was going to snatch it because he was enjoying some popularity at the time and he also managed to pass legislation from opposition. But then Australia decided "that" handshake was too violent (how could you do that to a feeble old man) and they went with the devil they knew.

Labour is a complete shamozzle. Although it's funny how many people HATE Kim Beasely (I'm not a fan myself). As bad as Beasely is I still think he's better than Johnny and that's not saying much at all.

The last 10 years have been nothing but an ego trip for lil johnny. Having been the "little" man all his life he's finally managed to scamper his way to the top and has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. How could "Uncle John" be such a bad man? And boy is he loving the adoration.

History will not look favourably upon John Howard.

At this stage I like Bob Brown. He's the only one that actually seems to care.
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Good onya John Hewson!

Howard's head is so far up his arse. Another decade of coalition rule, oh bligh me! With 10 years with these clowns, and labour the state that it's in, it's probably not an unlikely scenario ...


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One decade down, another to go: PM
By Misha Schubert, Canberra
The Age
March 1, 2006

FORMER Liberal leader John Hewson has savaged Prime Minister John Howard's socially divisive legacy on the eve of the Coalition's glittering celebration of the 10th anniversary of reclaiming government.

As hundreds of Liberal and Nationals politicians, staffers and business leaders prepare to toast the milestone tonight at a formal party in Parliament's Great Hall, Dr Hewson urged them to focus on the future, not the past.

Dr Hewson accused Mr Howard — who yesterday raised the prospect of another decade of Coalition rule — of having "run on his prejudices a lot" during the past 10 years, and urged a return to less divisive social policy in coming years.

"In value terms, we've gone backwards. There has been a tendency to be divisive," he told The Age last night.

"John is always talking about the things that bring us together being greater than the things that divide us, yet a number of (things) the Government has done have been quite divisive — the war in Iraq, children overboard, the recent statements about Muslim minorities. John has always run on his prejudices a lot … So it's not getting the signposts forward; to some extent the signposts have been pointed backwards."

An array of former Liberal and Nationals luminaries, including Dr Hewson, will attend the sold-out event tonight. But former prime minister Malcolm Fraser, who has become deeply disillusioned with elements of Coalition social policy, will be attending a family function.

Corporate guests have paid $1000 a head to attend the dinner, with the rest of the 650 or so guests paying more modest entry fees.

Mr Howard, deputy Liberal leader Peter Costello and Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile will address the crowd.

Liberal Party federal director Brian Loughnane said the event would be "restrained and appropriate".

"It's a night to recognise what has been achieved for Australia and a recognition that there is much more to be done," he said.

Organisers have been wary of giving their political opponents any ammunition for accusations of triumphalism.

After Labor's 1993 election win, the Liberals used TV footage of former foreign minister Gareth Evans dancing at the "True Believers" party to portray Labor as elitist and out of touch.

Addressing his MPs and senators yesterday, the Prime Minister warned it was vital to avoid any sense of arrogance or hubris.

He said the anniversary bash would be "contained, serious and sober".

"Once the Australian people get a whiff that we have tickets on ourselves, we are dead," he told colleagues.

He also raised the prospect of another decade of Coalition rule.

"The PM said we should dedicate ourselves to the next 10 years and try and give the sort of government that we have had in the last 10," a spokesman said.
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It says something when past respected members of their own party, namely John Hewson and Malcolm Fraser are against them. Just proves that they are no longer the Liberal party. They have become the John Howard I love George Bush party.
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Oh how great are the new IR laws !! Thanks to Johnny Howard, he is being inspired from bosses sacking workers unfairly !!

What ?? .... I am fired by saying that, Johnny ??
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What makes someone vote for John Howard? I see 3 common factors that can be seen in a typical howard voter: level of self-interest, race and affluence.

My wife and I would never vote for him, we're both migrants, she came here as a baby, I was 7 when I came. Although we're both very "Aussie" we know Howard is racist and very ignorant about other cultures, he's a product of his generation (although there are just as many late 60s people that have evolved with the times). We also know that he doesn't have a soul, and couldn't give a damn about anyone else (migrant or non-migrant) except himself and his quest to be the longest serving Prime Minister of this great country. His lack of a soul can be observed when he addresses the media after a tragedy has happened, ie. Bali, or more recently the Kovko debacle, blind freddy could see he doesn't give a damn and his fake attempt to show grief is vomit-worthy.

Back to my theory. My work colleague and I go out to get coffee everyday together, in passing conversation he mentioned that he hates people that complain about howard, he said re howard: "he's made everyone rich and people still complain". My mate is very wealthy, he worked hard to become wealthy, he is a white anglo-saxon Australian. Naturally he doesn't like paying high taxes because he feels it's not his responsibility to pay for a public health system that he rarely uses and to fund welfare scammers and anyone else on welfare. On the other hand, his wife, who is a migrant (also grew up in Australia) from a middle-eastern country, hates John Howard. I am guessing that she hates him for the same reasons my wife and I hate him, her hatred might also be hightened by howard's racism towards middle-eastern people.

John Howard hasn't really made my mate rich, besides the fact that he was going to be rich no matter what, the extra $100 a fortnight he probably gets from tax cuts over the last 10 years doesn't make much of an impact on his 6 figure yearly salary. Same goes for my wife and I, being a fairly young couple with no kids yet and both on good incomes, we can probably be considered wealthy, howard's tax breaks haven't really made us much wealthier.

Level of self-interest: A high level of self-interest means you are too concerned with your own situation to be concerned about others, so you never really stop to consider that not everyone has the same opportunities as you do. My mate from work could be classed as a person with high self-interest, his main priority is to earn enough money to take a year off work and live overseas (in his wife's homeland) without having to work; retire by 40; and ensure his kids get a good education. He's decided to send his kids to a public school after deciding private would be too expensive for 3 kids, he said he'll top up the poor education his kids are likely to receive in the public system by getting tutors which would still end up being cheaper than sending his kids to private schools. This is the same person that would prefer a "user-pays" system when it comes to health and education, even though he's chosen to send his children to a public school.

Level of self-interest is the most important factor, if your level of self-interest is high to the point where the only things that concern you is yourself or your family, then you're likey to vote for howard. However, if you have a social-conscience and care for the well-being of others, then you're less likely to vote for howard and the other 2 factors become less important.

Race: Your race by no means determines that you would vote for howard, but by default those that are white anglo-saxon are not born with the cultural sensitivity that non-anglo migrants have. From the day a non-anglo migrant arrives in Australia or is born here, they have to face the realisation that they don't look like the majority of the population in Australia, making them culturally aware and (hopefully) more understanding of other cultures.

Many, hopefully most anglo-saxon Australians develop an understanding and tolerance of other cultures, as I can see many on these forums have, but if they don't make an effort to learn/understand/tolerate other cultures, they will remain ignorant and support racists like howard and pauline hanson.

Lack of cultural awareness is not limited to anglo-saxons, there's a great many non-anglo's whether they be Greek, Italian, Chinese, Indian or middle-eastern that are just as 'culturally insensitive' to other cultures. But because their numbers are still a fraction of white-anglo Australians, the white-anglo's will continue to have the voting power.

Affluence: The move by the howard government towards a "user-pays" system for health, education and anything else important (ala that great beacon of democracy and capitalism the U.S. of A) has meant the gap between rich and poor is wider than ever before, the poor get left behind while the rich capitalise on opportunities (like they've always done) and get richer. The rich don't really care about a "user-pays" system, it's not them that are lining up for hours at GPs, public hospitals, medicare offices or banks, as far as they're concerned they're already paying for private doctors, private hospitals and private schools so why should they be paying their tax dollars towards services that they don't use.

A person's level of affluence doesn't necessarily mean they are going to vote for howard, it's simply a factor that could influence their decision. There are many wealthy Australians (ie. those in the arts, business leaders, doctors, celebrities etc) that would not vote for howard because they have a social conscience (low self-interest) and they believe in multiculturalism. At the same time there are many poor or middle-class Australians that would probably vote for howard because they are either ignorant/racist or they don't care about anyone else.

So in conclusion, the more self-interested (self-absorbed, selfish) you are the more likely you are to vote for howard. The more ignorant you are towards other cultures the more likely you are to vote for howard. And if you're well-off or rich, but don't really care about others and think multiculturalism is ruining Australia the more likely you are to vote for howard.

If you voted for howard based on interest rates and/or petrol prices which the Government has no control over, or national security which he has comprimised by going to war, and you're going to vote for howard again because you think multiculturalism is failing, then I feel sad for you and this country.
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What made me vote for howard - Lack of credible opposition! Same thing next election???


      


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What made me vote for howard - Lack of credible opposition! Same thing next election???


well, that just about sums the whole picture up for the MAJORITY i'd say.
it's scary ain't it  

little Johnny 'errryhaaaay ' Howard is so far up bush's arse it's not funny .... to think not, one would simply be downright DUMB ! ... the guy's a 100 % f'stick ...and looks & sounds like one too. ( no really, ya do johnny)  

if Labour had at least some freakin Idea as to what to do with themselves, then good ol' 'suck job'  johnny would be firmly out on his butt !

but it is NEVER gonna happen with Kimbo leading the way - for the sake of this country, move over Kim, your a has been, and now your just wasting our time, and help try restore our once half decent reputation .. even in this Iraq 'oil crabbing' crap .






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Can be put in one word "fear".

Howard's only geat political nous is knowing what really scares ordinary people and he plays on that with every devious neuron he has, and that's a lot.

He lucked with Tampa, then continued it with the boat people (remember the hordes of terrorists coming over in leaky wooden boats), then continued it with terrorists and the "war on said terrorists". When that got a bit thin and he got away with it as he wasn't made to account like Blair always has been and Bush now is, Howard moved to financial scaring. Every major economic institution and leading economists (17 of them) said Howard's scare in the last election on interest rates was absolute hokum and didn't stack up to sound economics, yet what nearly everyone in my electoral booth was talking about was interest rates.

This was borne out by the once strong Labor seat of Dobell, where the Insiders did some vox pops and overwhelmingly it was interest rates, and it will be the fear of rising interest rates under Labor that will have these once lifetime Labor votes vote Conservative next election as well, even though they know Howard's scare is bunkum. Just the thought of risking it scares the bejesus out of them.

Watch the fear strings again being pulled by Howard next election (actually it will start well before then).


Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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