As soon as this was brought to their attention the Rudd camp rectified it promptly.
As opposed to when anything is brought to Howard's attention he first and foremost lies in some way shape or form, and then passes the buck by saying he wasn't made aware of that information or his Ministers are free to speak their minds no matter how stupid or ignorant what they say is.
Howard has been PM for so long people have forgotten what it means to be a good person. A good person admits to a mistake, apologises and rectifies it. Rudd has demonstrated these traits acceptably. Howard, on the other hand ...
The content of a person's character is best on display when they are in a difficult situation, Howard each and every time has lied and denied. This is not traits of a good person let alone the leader of a nation.
Yes like Howard has hidden the government favours he has gotten for Janette Howard (along with Alexander Downer getting government positions for his wife and family; http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20060614-Is-Janette-Howard-fair-game.html) and even worse the nepotism he has used to get his daughter work in a government position over an above far more qualified candidates (full story was in Crikey a little while back).
So why aren't there stories being splashed on the front pages and lead bulletins about all the government abuse of their positions for family advantages?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
If these circumstances had occurred with any other company, they would've been in the parliament ripping them to shreds, not giving them one moment to be able to say that this was a mistake.
Damn straight they would have, joooo-lia would have been claiming this never would have occoured under the ALP's IR policy even though as Paula stated the emplyees were under common law contracts not AWA's.
"The Daily Telegraph has just about run out of adjectives to capture the incompetence of these Macquarie St state-stranglers. For now, we'll limit it to three: deceitful, callous and irresponsible." - Editorial, Wednesday November 12, 2008
You hang onto every little thread aquamonkey no matter how tenuous, what a load of absolute bollocks, Labor and the unions have only ever bought in businesses that have abused the new IR laws as is shown by the number of real cases that have been raised because of them. In fact it is Federal and State Labor along with Unions who are doing the government's job for them, as the Office or Workplace Services is failing to police its own laws and is so understaffed and under funded it can only check about 5-10% of all IR law breaches. Why don't you show your indignation at that?
Answer me this one aquamonkey. How come the Office of Workplace Services has often taken many months (sometimes 9 to 10 months) to get around in investigating blatant breaches of the new IR regulations, sometimes by some of Australia's leading companies, and then taken more months to come up with a ruling. Yet with Theresa Rein's company, the Office of Workplace Services was onto it the very next day the underpaying of 58 workers by 45 cents an hour was announced?
The Office of Workplace Services is an independent government body that by its very tenure is supposed to be free of government influence, yet in this one case it has acted more swiftly (in fact immediately) and has put in more resources than any other case it has ever investigated.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
The Office of Workplace Services, what a joke. They must have all of one employee investigating cases and about 50 awaiting instructions from Hockey or Howard.
It would probably be more effective if they outsourced it to India
Mal Brough, Jo Hockey but especially John Howard need to be gotten rid of now and this shows just how low and despicable they are in demonising anyone along with lies and deceits, they will go to any low down lengths to stay in power. They will lie on anything, so even their most ardent supporters should vote against them because noone can trust them anymore. There is noway of telling if what they are saying is honest or bull, in fact I'll rephrase that, everything they now say is almost certain to be bull, no honesty comes from this government anymore, that was thrown out in their first term when Howard got rid of his admirable policy on minister conflict of interest and integrity.
If you read the original McManus Therese Rein news piece on the common law contracts she gives her workers, which state the workers were paid over award, with 4% increases every year (AWA’s have no increase over 5 years), leave loading applied, all McManus based his supposition on was the word of an unknown lawyer, who said they would be worse off if they worked 90 minutes a week overtime.
But this is a business that rarely work nights or weekends so penalty rates hardly even apply.
McManus clearly must have known it was a fault of job classification and he didn’t bother to put that in before his attack on Therese Rein and also that the contracts were in place before she owned the business, which he also left out.
Bottom line though is that the pay is above the award and the contract simply reflects the award. So she pays them more than she has to in the contract (which is something you can't do once an AWA is signed).
In other words the Therese Rein story was mostly a concoction with a vague hint of truth to it - a wrongful classification which was known and corrected.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
And now's the Libs have unearthed an ex-employee from I think Tasmania who claims he was unfairly treated by Therese Rein's company.
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In other words the Therese Rein story was mostly a concoction with a vague hint of truth to it - a wrongful classification which was known and corrected.
This is the M.O. of the coalition, throw as much mud as possible even if it is not true, because there will be a great percentage of people that will not follow the story through and will believe the initial lie.
I think you are referring to the employee who stated that Igneus was engaging in shonky operations. That case has been heard and found to be baseless.
If you are referring to something new then could you post the source.
--------------------- Just shows how bad this government is. Less than a week after it tabled the IR Fairness Test legislation the government recalled it to make more changes then gagged all debate on the new legislation (it is obviously badly flawed).
When questioned on why the legislation can't be debated, the government just launched into a tirade of abuse against Labor and being controlled by the unions.
Huh? Have they really lost it that much? As one long time political commentator has stated, he has never seen a government behaving more like a whining opposition party attacking an opposition as though they were the government.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
A FORMER employee of Therese Rein, Kevin Rudd's wife, has described her as "a bastard" whose company regularly sacked workers, underpaid him and forced him to provide his own radiator.
Interesting. Will see how far this goes, as apparently Howard has the OWS going through every tiny bit of Therese Rein's business dealings (at taxpayer cost of course). I wish he had been as thorough with his brother's business dealings, who got bailed out by tax payers to the tune of $6 million.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Good to see the Kevin Rudd supporters are maintaining their fair and balanced thinking by criticizing union bullying this week. The silence is deafening. Dean Mighell's comments although condemned by Kevin Rudd is the true heart and soul of the unions. The ACTU's Greg Combet has made it quite clear the trade unions should run the nation again. Also according to industry sources the construction, forestry, mining and energy union assistant secretary is shown on tape to be telling an employer word's to the effect of " You wait till f***ing Rudd's elected. Ill be back". Union thug Joe Mc Donald has also been caught on tape threatening employers with revenge after a Labor victory.
If Labor comes into power I hope everyone is ready for high inflation, interest rates and a wave of industrial disputes which will bring Australia to its knees.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” ~ Winston Churchill
Oh stop it TPO. Just as you are deafening silent about Howards blatant transgressions, lies and deceits there is no need for us to go on about Mighell. Yet again Rudd shows the real leader he is in the way he decisively and swiftly handled Mighell, and why he is streets ahead of the sycophantic and weazley Howard.
All you have is scare and more scare. The unions have not been an influence for decades now, even under Hawke and Keating, they were the ones who bought them under control and into the 21st century. There are still a couple of dinosaurs like Mighell but overall what the unions do today is very beneficial and without them we would have Howard's big business mates running everything, and that would be worse for ordinary Australians than all the militant unions in the world. Australians know this and are more afraid of that than anything Howard (and you aping Howard) can come up with as a meaningless scare on unions.
Notice you have been very silent as case after case has come to light of business deliberately ripping off their workers, where is you indignation and outrage over them?
If Howard wins the next election be prepared for higher interest rates, much lower wages, more record mortgage foreclosures (another record last month), record bankruptcies (another record last month), more homelessness (record highs), worse health, worse education except for the rich, few holidays, no paid overtime, less working hours and it goes on.
And what does Howard have planned when the resources boom goes bust, because that is all he has as a policy. Every other measure of the Australian economy is in trouble and far worse off since Howard got into power. Howard is a sham and to elect him is to have billions more wasted on tax payer political advertising ($2 billion so far), and an increase in the most wasteful government and highest taxing government in our history. Howard has promised increased taxes (though he doesn't call them that).
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Good to see the Kevin Rudd supporters are maintaining their fair and balanced thinking by criticizing union bullying this week. The silence is deafening. Dean Mighell's comments although condemned by Kevin Rudd is the true heart and soul of the unions. The ACTU's Greg Combet has made it quite clear the trade unions should run the nation again.
In case you missed it Rudd forced Dean Mighell to quit the party. Rudd, like Keating, is from Labor-right and doesn't pander to unions like scaremongers like yourself would like us to believe.
In fact, one union boss said the unions would have a tough time if Labor got into power. Obviously they'd prefer a Labor Government but it won't be a "free for all" as you and Howard would like to make us think.
but do you know of anyone who is worse off under the "new laws" I don't to me nothing has changed
Haven't you been watching the news as case after case and company after company started ripping off their workers? Insight SBS Tuesday night was a real eye opener on these draconian laws. Personally I have come across around 14 people who are friends or just acquaintances who have been adversely affected by these laws, and a small handful who are better off under them, but even they are stuck in 5 year contracts with no pay raise and have lost many of their conditions for their higher pay.
If no one was worse off, why did Howard have to bring in whole scale changes and a no disadvantage test for better fairness (which is what the old system had)? Let's put this in some persepective, according to the government's own figures only 6-7% of Australians are on AWA's with 30% on common law agreements and the rest on union won awards. Yet by far the greatest complaints and problems are coming from those 6-7% on AWA's, which is also taking a massive chunk of the Federal budget to administer. It is bureaucratic nightmare.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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