This morning on one of my news websites there is an article saying Katie and Tom may be having a baby. Well, after 2 wives and only 2 adopted children from those partnerships, I always assumed Tom wasn't able to Father children. There is a high probability that the rumour of the pregnancy is not true but makes me wonder if she is expecting, who the biological father is. I think their relationship & Scientology and all the whoohaa surrounding it is obscene. My daughter who is 28 would not give the time of day (romantically) to a man who is on the verge of being old enough to be her Dad, and in Katie's case IS old enough to be her Dad.
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I think all the whoohaa surrounding it is just a matter of both of them being a little weird. I don't normally know much about celebrity gossip stuff but this relationship was a little hard to miss. Anyhow, hearing that he has adopted kids makes me think "Shouldn't they have stricter psychological screening for potential parents?"
All the best to both of them but to be honest, after all the spectacle I think we're all expecting it to come to some kind of dramatic and perhaps disasterous end. I am anyway. At the very least waiting to see Mr. Cruise on a talk show complaining about people following him around so I can think to myself, "You idiot."
No, Tom is just very happy... oh... you mean that kind of gay! Never have I once thought Tom was/is gay. I do however believe he is sterile and that just leaves one of those Scientology Guards that even follow Katie to the Loo as the sperm donor! Actually, I'll be surprised if she is pregnant. Remember all the times Jennifer Aniston was pregnant and lots of other celebrities and it turned out to be the wrong call? Let's just wait 6 months or so and see.
Tom Cruise: Bio from IMDB Thomas Cruise Mapother IV 5'7" tall In 1976, if you had told 14 year old Franciscan seminary student Thomas Cruise Mapother IV that one day in the not too distant future he would be considered one of the top 100 movie stars of all time, he would have probably grinned and told you that his ambition was to become a priest. Nonetheless, this sensitive, deeply religious youngster who was born in 1962 in Syracuse, New York, was destined to become Tom Cruise, one of the highest paid and most sought after actors in screen history. The only son (among four children) of nomadic parents young Tom spent his boyhood eternally on the move and by the time he was 14 he had attended 15 different schools in the US and Canada. He finally settled in Glen Ridge, New Jersey, with his mother and her new husband. While in high school, he developed an interest in acting and abandoned his plans of becoming a priest, dropped out of school, and at age 18 headed for New York and a possible acting career. The next 15 years of his life are the stuff of legends. He made his film debut with a small part in Endless Love (1981) and from the outset exhibited an undeniable box office appeal to both male and female audiences.
Though below average height and not particularly handsome in the traditional sense, within 5 years Tom Cruise was starring in some of the top grossing films of the 1980s including Top Gun (1986); The Color of Money (1986), Rain Man (198 and Born on the Fourth of July (1989). By the 1990s he was one of the highest paid actors in the world earning an average 15 million dollars a picture in such blockbuster hits as _Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles (1994)_ , Mission: Impossible (1996) and Jerry Maguire (1996) for which he received an Academy Award Nomination for best actor. In 1990 he renounced his devout Catholic beliefs and embraced The Church Of Scientology claiming that Scientology teachings had cured him of the dyslexia that had plagued him all of his life. A kind and thoughful man well known for his compassion and generosity, Tom Cruise is one of the best liked members of the movie community. He was married to actress Nicole Kidman until 2001. Thomas Cruise Mapother IV has indeed come a long way from the lonely wanderings of his youth.
If he marries Katie Holmes, it will be his third marriage. He is very odd although I would not say his childhood and upbringing was tough. Different and rootless but not tough in the traditional sense.
About Celebrity adoptions.... it seems to me that celebrities get a home free card when applying for adoption. PLUS they can be as wacky and 'out there' as possible and the powers that be don't blink an eye. Look at Angelina Jolie, she has some very strange ways and wacky ideas. There are dozens of celebrities who have adopted children, too many to mention by name. Why is it that friends of mine were made to jump through hoops and do cartwheels and have three or more home visits from the adoption people before they were given the green light to adopt a Romanian child?
They so do NOT have a future together, and now they've created a baby to bring up in this mess? The child hasn't been born and already I feel sorry for him/her!
You've probably heard how they want Katie to have a 'silent birth'. This means no pain noises during the birth! getouttahere!
I must say the best thing about scientology is that Christians, Muslims, Mormans, they all agree its an insane cult! At last, something we all agree on!!
I must say the best thing about scientology is that Christians, Muslims, Mormans, they all agree
Atheists, Agnostics, People in Comas, Dogs, Cats, Trees... lol... sorry I couldn't help myself. I don't know anything about scientology other than "Tom Cruise" which shouldn't reflect on it, and that the founder was a paranoid schizophrenic from the sound of it and from accounts of others. That and that people pay to have modern technology use conditioning for spiritual purposes, and that they pay some pretty big bucks. And some other stuff that sounded really crazy that I can't remember now. No nevermind the apology. Apologies to any scientologists in particular, but Trees, Dirt... even the Space Aliens and the Boogyman think its ludicrous. Hey what ever happened to that cult that beleived we are the result of Alien seeding of the planet?
Congrats Dean, you reached 100 posts and made me laugh in the meantime! I have read and seen a lot of things on Scientology. It IS a cult and it even has a Celebrity Centre for Scientology for the likes of Tom and Katie, John Travolta and Kelly Preston, Kirstie Alley, Nicole Kidman, Priscilla Presley, Lisa Presley etal. Some interesting stuff and facts on Scientology and other Cults can be found here: http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/celebrities_con.html?FACTNet I said it before somewhere that Tom insists that Katie not be left 'unguarded' for even a moment, which means she has company when she goes to the toilet and bathes, and the company of course are scientology people. To me that sounds like prison. Dean... to your question... Hey what ever happened to that cult that beleived we are the result of Alien seeding of the planet? I am sure they are 'Out there'.
Tom is his own worst enemy. Tom made an absolute goose of himself jumping around like a 2 year old. I think they look cute together too, like Cewpie dolls. (Sarcasm intended).
I don't think I could have an actor as a steady boyfriend. I would get really jealous when he has to be very close and kissing and stuff with someone else.
Superstar Tom Cruise has dropped his sister as his movie publicist and hired a top Hollywood flak after coming under intense media fire for publicly mixing his religious views with his movie-making.
Cruise, 43, announced that his sister Lee Anne DeVette would hand over publicity for him and his production company to veteran spokesman to the stars Paul Bloch, following a tough summer in which his image took a beating.
DeVette will now exclusively oversee Cruise's soon-to-expand involvement in charitable causes, notably those linked to the Church of Scientology of which Cruise is a devout member.
"Lee Anne has done a wonderful job on behalf of myself and Cruise-Wagner Prods. over the last few years," Cruise said in a statement.
"But she has always expressed a desire to oversee and expand the day-to-day activities of my charitable endeavours," he said, announcing that Bloch would now handle his own publicity and that of his Cruise-Wagner Productions.
"I am thrilled at this new opportunity to oversee Tom's philanthropic endeavours," DeVette said in the same statement.
"I know how important Tom's charitable goals are to him, and I am looking forward to assisting in raising the profile of the good works that he does on behalf of children's health issues, mentoring, literacy and other social reforms, as well as the general betterment of the human condition," she added.
The switch comes 20 months after Cruise sacked his longtime Hollywood publicist Pat Kingsley and hired his sister, who had for years worked closely with the actor at his Cruise-Wagner Productions.
But Cruise's closely-protected image sailed into rough waters this summer when the usually very private actor began giddily expressing his love for actress Katie Holmes in interviews, including one where he boisterously leapt up and down on talk show queen Oprah Winfrey's sofa as he told how much he loved Holmes.
The unusual antics sparked widespread speculation in the media over whether the expression of love was genuine or a publicity stunt.
He then used his War of the Worlds global media tour to announce his engagement to Holmes in June and then proceeded to talk publicly - and sometimes combatively - about his Scientology beliefs.
Cruise and Holmes, who have been dating since May, announced last month they are expecting their first baby.
Its taken him THIS long to figure out he needs a new publicist? Sheesh, he really is stupid! I think its too late though, I for one will never think of him the same again, no matter how much press there is about what a great father he is and how much money he gives away.
Tom Cruise has made an unusual purchase for his fiancee Katie Holmes - one that will let them see the development of their baby.
"I bought a sonogram machine," Cruise says on ABC's Barbara Walters Presents: The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2005, to air on November 29.
The 43-year-old actor said the couple would do their own ultrasounds to look at their unborn baby.
Cruise said he will donate the machine to a hospital after the baby was born.
Ultrasound machines range in cost from $34,000 to $270,000.
Holmes's pregnancy was announced in early October. The couple, who have been dating since April, became engaged in June.
"We are gonna get married next summer or early fall," Cruise told Walters. "We don't have a date set yet."
Cruise said he didn't know if the baby was a boy or a girl. He has two children, Connor, 10, and Isabella, 12, from his marriage to Nicole Kidman. It will be the first child for 26-year-old Holmes.
Isn't an ultrasound essentially an X-ray using radiation? Radiation is reasonably harmless in small doses but the professionals will let you have 2 maybe 3 ultrasounds during the term of your pregnancy. How many does Tom expect Katie to have before the baby is born just to satisfy their own concerns/curiosity?
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You're kidding me Suzi aren't you? Tom Cruise is one of the 10 most fascinating people of the year? Tell me it isn't so. He's about as fascinating as a wet chux. I could list 1010 people more suitable for that title.
The world is very sad if this is the best we can do
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Does Tom realise he could be turning his child into a piece of toast. ??. . .if he thinks it is OK to keep repeatedly scanning his unborn child. . he is a bigger fool that we give him credit for. . .ultra-sound is a good tool to use under normal circumstances. . but every day??. . *get out'ta here Tom*.
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[quote=SuziH...Cruise says on ABC's Barbara Walters Presents: The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2005, to air on November 29
You're kidding me Suzi aren't you? Tom Cruise is one of the 10 most fascinating people of the year? Tell me it isn't so. He's about as fascinating as a wet chux. I could list 1010 people more suitable for that title.
The world is very sad if this is the best we can do
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, I was so horrified by the fact they have their own scanner that I totally missed the bit about him being one of the 10 most fascinating people of the year. Who the hell are the other 9? OMG... maybe they should of had a 10 biggest jerks of the year, I know he would of been on that list. Most fascinating people of where, his neighbourhood? Certainly not the World. Good grief, I think I am going to lose my mind.
I was so curious by all this that I think I will start a new thread....
Is it a full machine, or just a handheld portable? Many OB's use these every time their patient comes in for a check-up. I wouldn't think they are as bad as the big huge machines.
What does Cruise plan to do with it anyway? Is he trained to know what to look for? Er - NO! And if he notices the baby not moving, no sign of a heartbeat, what good is that machine going to do?
Just when we thought this guy couldn't get any more nuts! His career will NEVER recover as far as I'm concerned.
Tom Cruise has been slammed for buying a sonogram machine for his pregnant fiancee Katie Holmes, with health experts warning that he's putting his unborn child at risk. Officials at the American College of Radiology (ACR) are highly concerned by Cruise's revelation that he purchased the device to track his child's progress, and they're warning him that he could be breaking the law if he's carrying out the scans himself. Dr. Carol M. Rumack, of the ACR Ultrasound Commission, says, "This is a patient safety issue. Untrained people, even if they have the financial means, should not buy, or be allowed to buy and operate, ultrasound machines which are, in fact, medical devices and should not be used without a medical indication. Images of the fetus are an opportunity to diagnose problems before birth that may require treatment. These images should be obtained by certified technologists under the supervision of physicians properly trained in ultrasound... The ACR is concerned that Tom Cruise has been badly advised regarding the use and potential abuse of ultrasound. There are many abnormalities that may be missed by the untrained eye. Also, if it is not medically necessary, the use of ultrasound raises unnecessary physical risk to the fetus."
Cruise at centre of ultrasound row December 4, 2005
Tom Cruise ... in hot water with medical experts
Movie icon Tom Cruise is at the centre of a fresh medical row with experts expressing concern over his purchase of a sonogram machine to perform at-home scans on expectant fiancee Katie Holmes.
Cruise told US television interviewer Barbara Walters last month that he had bought an ultrasound machine to peek at the foetus of his unborn baby with the Batman Begins actress who he has been dating since April.
But medical experts are warning it is dangerous for untrained Cruise and Holmes to be operating a complex piece of medical equipment such as an ultrasound machine at home.
Both the The Society of Diagnostic Medical Sonography (SDMS) and the American College of Radiology (ACR) are up in arms at the Mission Impossible and Top Gun star's admission that he bought the machine that can cost anywhere between $US15,000 ($20,000) and $US200,000 ($270,000).
"The Society is concerned about the safety of Cruise's decision to purchase a medical device and perform a medical diagnostic procedure without appropriate training," the SDMS said in a statement.
"Diagnostic medical sonographers complete educational programs and take national certification examinations to ensure they can perform sonograms safely and in a manner that obtains accurate results," it added.
The SDMS said use of such a machine required knowledge, hand-eye coordination and pattern recognition and that "reading the manufacturer's manual or having a one hour orientation is not sufficient".
The ACR issued a similar warning, saying the famous couple could potentially harm their unborn baby by performing ultrasounds without a doctor's supervision.
"This is a patient safety issue. Untrained people, even if they have the financial means, should not buy, or be allowed to buy and operate, ultrasound machines which are, in fact, medical devices and should not be used without a medical indication," said Dr Carol Rumack of the ACR's Ultrasound Commission.
The medical broohaha is the second that 43-year-old Cruise has become embroiled in this year following a clash with psychiatrists over his opposition to their science.
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) slammed Cruise for referring to psychiatry as a "pseudoscience", while he got into a public row with actress Brooke Shields after he criticised her use of drugs to treat postnatal depression.
"It is irresponsible for Mr Cruise to use his movie publicity tour to promote his own ideological views and deter people with mental illness from getting the care they need," said APA president Dr Steven Sharfstein in June.
Cruise is an ardent member of the Church Scientology that dismisses the use of psychiatry and psychotropic and anti-depressant drugs.
Wonder what he'll do in 2006 to make us dislike him even more.
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Oh, thats easy Suzi, he's going to make his wife have a horribly painful birth where she is not allowed to utter a single negative sound, or even think a negative thought! And then he will raise that poor child in the scientology church. THATS what he's going to be doing in 2006!
I think the guy is getting slammed way harder than he needs to be by the media. I don't agree with his ideology at all and find at least one aspect of it dangerous to society but it's sort of a thing taken with a grain of salt. I also thnk he's made a bad decision with the ultrasound machine. I haven't read the links here but what I haven't heard in the wonderful commercialised national news (and puke that they even bother to report it) is that there's debate about a single ultrasound doing cellular damage or not. There isn't any proof either way but if so then there's ethics behind using it for anything that isn't medically necisary, for example finding out the gender of the child. All that said, isn't it enough to say the guy has made a couple bad decisions and leave it at that? I feel sorry for him getting slammed all the time. It wasn't too long ago that I myself was slamming scientology on another forum in a thread about Tom Cruise and I feel like an a** for it now because it was a fairly passionate slam.
Edit: Forgot... "Hey, I thought camera phones were banned from public restrooms." lol
Katie's dad in confrontation with Tom Thursday Jan 5 08:36 AEDT
Tom Cruise has been forced to put his wedding plans on hold after a Christmas bust-up with his fiancee's dad.
Sources say Martin Holmes - father of Katie - confronted the Mission Impossible star about the pair's relationship. The divorce lawyer reportedly told Cruise he was unhappy with his "controlling" nature.
Tom and Katie ended up leaving a family party in Toledo, Ohio, days earlier than planned after the fight.
And now pals fear the wedding might never happen.
A friend said: "The tension in the air was stifling. "Tom was very uncomfortable.
"Katie was in tears but that's standard when it comes to dealing with family matters and Tom.
"They ended up leaving three days earlier than planned.
"I don't think Tom will ever feel welcome in the Holmes house again. The family just doesn't trust him.
"As far as the wedding goes I am not holding my breath."
The pair began dating in April 2005 and got engaged in June. In October they announced they were set to be parents. Katie - set to give birth this Easter - has told Cruise she won't wed before she becomes a mum. A friend told American magazine Life & Style Weekly "Katie's adamant about not walking down the aisle when she is so pregnant.
"Katie loves Tom but she keeps getting chills, like everything is moving too fast.
"Once she has the baby that could be the time to concentrate purely on being a mum and not a wedding planner.
"But my opinion is the wedding is not going to happen."
A spokeswoman for Cruise was unavailable for comment.
Last month it was reported that their hush-hush wedding date had slipped out.
Their marriage registry list in LA's ritzy department store Neiman Marcus has given the big day as July 7.
The couple are listed as Katherine Holmes and Thomas Mapother, Cruise's birth name, and are simply asking for gift cards.
Cruise, 43, recently told US TV host Barbara Walters he was planning to wed Katie, 27, next summer or autumn.
OMG imagine being the parent/s of Katie Holmes and being in that situation. My daughter is one year older than Katie and I would be devastated.
You can certainly understand why fathers want to lock up their daughters...I reckon Mr Holmes has done well not to belt the sh** out of Tom
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With all due respects to Katie Holmes, I really think she has bitten off more than she chew with this person "Tom Cruise". I have always found him to be weird, never found him to be all that attractive, his movies are barely so-so and thought that Nicole was too good for the likes of him. We really don't know the full story only what the media feeds us, but after seeing him on Oprah springboarding on the couch I just thought "cuckoo!". I feel for the poor child who will be another screwed up kid with famous parents who will spend its life in therapy or rehab.
Yesterday while on the stairs, I saw a Man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today...I wish that He would go away!!
Couldn't agree more Saphyre66. BTW welcome back, have missed your guardian angel and your posts. I do not for one moment believe him to be the biological father of her child. He never produced children with either of his former wives and was married to both of them for a good many years. Mimi Rogers has gone on to have children of her own, Nicolle Kidman has given birth to any of her own, so anyone's guess as to whether or not Tom can actually produce children. I've always believed he shoots blanks myself. Katie's family wont let Tom brainwash Katie too much I hope. My heart would break if it were my daughter.
Awww thanks Suzi...it's nice to be missed Yes I hope that Katies parents do keep an eye out for her. From all accounts her parents aren't really all that impressed with Tom's power or connections...the don't appear to be the star struck stage parents. Hopefully they will keep her grounded...Katie seems to be a lovely young lady and I didn't mind her acting...let's hope she can keep her identity and that she resists Tom's efforts to do movies with him...
Yesterday while on the stairs, I saw a Man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today...I wish that He would go away!!
Tom, Katie's breakup report denied Wednesday Feb 15 11:23 AEDT Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes remain engaged to be married
LOS ANGELES - Hollywood lovebirds Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes remain engaged to be married and are proceeding with wedding plans, his publicist said, denying a Valentine's Day report to the contrary.
"It should be known that the story (of a breakup) is 100 percent false," spokesman Paul Bloch said in a statement sent to news agencies in response to the report, from celebrity magazine Life & Style.
"Mr. Cruise and Ms. Holmes are still engaged and are moving forward with their wedding plans, as well as planning for the arrival of their child. Despite the malicious fallacies put forth ... the couple is looking forward to a long and happy life together as a family."
Well, if this story is like all other gossip stories we've had in the past (Pitt and Aniston, Jessica Simpson), then it means that their relationship is in trouble! It will now be a matter of time before the break up. Pity there is a child involved in it now...
I always whince at 'stars' that get too rich . .too famous. . too public. . too fast!. . they are so young for the results of their fast fame. . it tends to make them out of touch with reality. . .Tom is a good example of that.
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Celebrity raised its head again to seize readers' minds though. Tom Cruise never fails in this regard, and fourth on our list was this story, about how Princess Diana's biographer, Andrew Morton has hired a former gay-porn actor and private investigator to "to help him with his warts-and-all book about Cruise".
Cruise, who managed to ban an episode of "South Park" because of jokes made about his sexuality, has threatened to sue. A happier instance saw Cruise come in at No.5 with readers, when his publicist confirmed his marriage plans to Katie Holmes were full speed ahead.
Hopefully the excited couple to be made sure they took in this story, our sixth most-read, which said that in the long run "marriage does make people happier", and no doubt more comfortable with their sexuality. A happy marriage, Cruise should note, features a "strong honeymoon effect, lasting approximately a year," with those bound for the divorce courts likely to see some domestic argy-bargy in the first twelve months. Source: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18176795-421,00.html
SYDNEY turned on its best summer weather yesterday to farewell the Big Fella. But as the temperature soared past 30 degrees, there was only one way to escape the heat for James Packer, his girlfriend Erica Baxter, best buddy Tom Cruise and his heavily pregnant fiancee, Katie Holmes: a dip and a cruise on the harbour.
After hosting a select post-memorial service luncheon at the swanky restaurant Guillaume at Bennelong with their mother Ros for 200 of the Packers's inner circle, James and co were later spotted on his speedboat, Carpe Diem, wearing their swimmers and dripping wet. They were then transferred to board the family's floating gin palace, the former ice breaker Arctic P, which was moored in Athol Bay, just off Taronga Zoo.
There, freshly minted media tycoon James looked comfortable and relaxed, casually taking phone calls and wearing his cheeky budgie smugglers while Hollywood sex symbol Tom opted for more modest swimming shorts.
Cruise and Holmes managed to create quite a stir aboard the Arctic P. Charter boats full of city office workers out for Friday night drinks slowed down to sail by the famous ship, and Cruise obliged by giving the thumbs-up and yelling, inaudibly, to the partygoers, much to Holmes's delight.
The mood had lightened from a few hours earlier, when Cruise and Holmes joined the Packer family at the Sydney Opera House. The couple later retired to their cabin aboard the Arctic P, where it was thought they intended to spend the night.
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TOM Cruise and fiancee Katie Holmes have reportedly swapped rings. The star couple - who are expecting their first baby together - allegedly gave each other bands with triangular Scientology symbols during a boat trip last July. The couple were heading to Aruba to celebrate Tom's 43rd birthday. Actors John Travolta and Kirstie Alley were among guests. An insider told The Sun: "Katie wore a flowing white dress and Tom was in a black suit as they exchanged rings during the brief 30-minute ceremony. The couple then walked across a tiny bridge - a Scientology symbol for the journey to total freedom." A rep for Cruise said: "All I can say is they are not married in any sense of the word." - From BANG Showbiz
So what do you call it, a committment ceremony??? Same thing in my book. Katie once said , when she was engaged to the guy before Tom, that she would not have sex before marriage. Did that suddenly change when she and Tom hooked up?
Cruise less popular than Saddam Monday Mar 27 15:00 AEDT Tom Cruise is less popular than Saddam Hussein
By ninemsn staff
Tom Cruise is less popular than Saddam Hussein, according to a recent survey.
The poll, conducted by Stuff magazine, saw Cruise voted the person people would “least like to go camping with". The Hollywood actor won 41 percent of the vote, compared to Saddam Hussein's 39 percent.
Cruise also won a Razzie Award recently for his strange behaviour in 2005 which includes the now infamous couch jumping incident on the Oprah Winfrey Show. He was awarded the newly-created Most Tiresome Tabloid Target prize at the ceremony.
^^^That is the funniest thing I have read for days.^^^ What a great laugh. I wonder if Tom Cruise knows how unpopular he is?
I suspect he might have noticed . . if people don't want to go camping with him . . they are not likely to invite him for dinner . . . . He is not on my 'invite' list. . (and I am going to a friends house for dinner this week-end). . even I score better than him!. .
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Katie's a Scientologist: Cruise April 14, 2006 - 9:50AM
Tom Cruise says his Catholic-born fiancee, Katie Holmes, has joined him as a follower of the Church of Scientology but insists that doesn't mean she can't make noise when she gives birth to their child.
Cruise, 43, addressed questions about the religious faith of his pregnant bride-to-be, the child they are expecting and Scientology's practice of "silent birth" in an ABC News television interview set for broadcast in the US tomorrow.
Excerpts from the interview, conducted by Diane Sawyer, were released by the Walt Disney Co-owned network as part of a publicity blitz linking the impending birth of Cruise's first biological child with his upcoming film, Mission: Impossible: III.
Cruise suggested Scientology's doctrine of "silent birth," emphasising a calm, quiet atmosphere in the delivery room, free from screaming and shouts of "push," was misunderstood and exaggerated by the media.
"It's basically just respecting the mother, you know, and helping to be quiet. (But) not the mother. The mother makes as much noise ... you know, she's going through it. She does what she's gotta do, OK?"
Contrary to perceptions that Scientology frowns on giving painkillers to women in labour, Cruise added: "We're there, you know, with doctors. ... whatever the woman wants. ... If she needs an epidural, she's gonna get her epidural."
He denied a tabloid report that he had bought an adult pacifier to muffle the moans of his 27-year-old fiancee.
Asked whether their baby would be given a Catholic baptism, Cruise said, "No," then added: "I mean you can be Catholic and be a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and be a Scientologist.
But we're just Scientologists."
"Katie, too?" Sawyer asked.
"Katie, too," he replied.
It was the first public acknowledgment that Holmes has joined Cruise, one of Scientology's most prominent adherents, in embracing a faith founded by science-fiction writer L Ron Hubbard.
Cruise denied media accounts of tension with Holmes' parents, who are devout Catholics, over her association with Scientology.
"They're OK with her being a Scientologist since they're Catholic?" Sawyer asked, to which Cruise answered, "Absolutely, yes."
The couple have yet to set a wedding date.
The baby will be the first for Holmes, who starred in the TV show Dawson's Creek.
Cruise has two older children, 13-year-old daughter Isabella and 11-year-old son Connor, whom he adopted with Australian actor Nicole Kidman before their marriage ended in 2001.
Contrary to perceptions that Scientology frowns on giving painkillers to women in labour, Cruise added: "We're there, you know, with doctors. ... whatever the woman wants. ... If she needs an epidural, she's gonna get her epidural."
He denied a tabloid report that he had bought an adult pacifier to muffle the moans of his 27-year-old fiancee.
Given it seems like she's been pregnant for +12 months it's gonna hurt like hell getting the kid out
Well maybe it will for the women who's actually pregnant and locked in a scientologist basement uhhh, ohhhhhh. I umm, I, mean luxury penthouse suite
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Given it seems like she's been pregnant for +12 months it's gonna hurt like hell getting the kid out
Well said AM. Gave me a good laugh and I agree 100% with your observation. The woman must be having a baby elephant (they take a year or so). I was reading an old mag that a friend gave me and it was last April. Katie and her then fiance had broken up BUT in the blink of an eye she was being dated by TC and pregnant and engaged. Whoever thought it was good manners to be still married to one person (Nicole Kidman) and engaged to another. Poor taste all 'round I say!
Cruise educates family ahead of baby Sunday Apr 16 06:14 AEST AP - Tom Cruise has taken the impending birth of his first child with fiancee Katie Holmes to another level.
"We've been doing seminars with the family just to educate them," the 43-year-old star of the upcoming Mission: Impossible III film tells GQ magazine in its May issue.
"Running seminars so we can understand what Kate's going through, and for Kate to understand it. Things like how to take care of a pregnant woman and get ready for the birth.
"It's just kind of becoming a fun game of learning. We've also been studying what happens after the birth and how to take care of the baby."
Cruise says his children, 11-year-old Connor and 13-year-old Isabella from his marriage to Nicole Kidman, will help take care of the baby.
Cruise and Holmes, 27, have been engaged since June. Her pregnancy was announced in October.
The couple are remaining silent about the sex of the baby. As for a wedding date, he said they were looking at late summer or early fall.
Doesn't every family do this for the existing children? Except 'normal' people don't call it 'seminars'. Life with the Cruise's sound like fun.... NOT.
Normal Familiys can't afford the time or money to sit through an educational presentation in hopes that they might come away either having learned something or having experienced an entertaining presenter... that's about it. I'm not gonna say the guy isn't weird, but that's not abnormal for someone who can do things like that without having to worry about rearanging their finances in the process.
Cruise, Holmes have baby girl Wednesday Apr 19 09:28 AEST
Actress Katie Holmes, who became engaged last June to actor Tom Cruise, has given birth to the couple's first child, a girl they named Suri, their spokesman said.
Mother and child, who weighed in 3.4 kg at birth, were "doing well," Cruise's publicist, Paul Bloch, said in a statement.
The name Suri has it origins in Hebrew, meaning "princess," or in Persian, meaning "red rose," the statement said.
The birth came as Cruise, 43, is in the midst of a promotional campaign for his upcoming film Mission: Impossible III, which is due out in May.
The three-time Oscar nominee has two older children that he adopted during his marriage to actress Nicole Kidman, 13-year-old daughter Isabella and 11-year-old son Connor.
News that Holmes, 27, has given birth caps a whirlwind Hollywood romance that ranks as one of the most high-profile celebrity courtships in recent memory, one that morphed into the tabloid sensation known as "TomKat".
The couple began dating last April. But in the minds of the public, the early days of their romance date to Cruise's manic, couch-hopping appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show last May, when the actor giddily professed his love for Holmes during an hour-long interview.
Footage of the twice-divorced Cruise, jumping on Winfrey's guest sofa, dropping to one knee to pump his fist and ushering Holmes on stage to declare, "I love this woman!" was replayed repeatedly on television. Bootleg copies sold on eBay for $US20 ($A27).
The Oprah appearance triggered suspicions of a publicity stunt to promote his then new film, War of the Worlds, and hers, Batman Begins. It also made Cruise the butt of jokes by TV comedians, tabloid columnists and internet spoof artists.
One website began hawking "Free Katie" T-shirts, stickers and coffee mugs, a veiled reference to widely circulating jokes that Holmes was being unwittingly indoctrinated by Cruise into the Church of Scientology, of which he is a prominent member.
Weeks later, in mid-June, the two announced their engagement at a Paris news conference the morning after Cruise popped the question to Holmes at the Eiffel Tower. But they have not set a wedding date.
In an amazing bit of serendipity, Brooke Shields, who engaged in a notorious war of words with Cruise over the treatment of postpartum depression, also gave birth to a baby daughter, Grier Hammond, Tuesday morning in Los Angeles -- also 7 pounds, also 20 inches. It's the second child for Shields and her husband, writer Chris Henchy, who already have another daughter, Rowan, almost 3.
Heh heh, so true! It should settle down when the angalena brad combo is born in the next few weeks.
Meanwhile...
http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-04-19/
American magazine Parade has thrown out the results of a Tom Cruise opinion poll, after they grew suspicious of the surprising landslide majority. Parade's website recently asked online readers if they blamed Cruise or the media for his disastrous public relations last year, and magazine bosses were stunned to find 84 percent of respondents blamed the press. Cruise was ridiculed in the press for his many public declarations of love for fiancee Katie Holmes and his claims of medical expertise thanks to his controversial religion Scientology. Parade publicist Alexis Collado tells website PageSix.com, "We at Parade found this a little bit fishy, so we did some investigating. We found out more than 14,000 (of the 18,000-plus votes) that came in were cast from only 10 computers! One computer was responsible for nearly 8,400 votes alone, all blaming the media for Tom's troubles. We also discovered that at least two other machines were the sources of inordinate numbers of votes. It seems these folks (whoever they may be) resorted to extraordinary measures to try to portray Tom in a positive light for the Parade.com survey. There is even a chance they wrote a special 'bot' program for the sole purpose of skewing the results, rather than casting the votes by hand on a computer." Cruise's spokesman insists the actor is ignorant of the survey's existence, saying, "I know nothing about the poll, so we have nothing to comment on."
I'd say a group of crazy fans came up with the idea. Personally, I'm not sure how I'd have voted. The press certinally blow things out of proportion, and if it wasn't for them we'd never have known about half the crazy antics of Tom. ..
I would say its both the media and Tom Cruise himself. The media can distort the truth in a bid to sell papers but also I have seen interviews with Tom Cruise first hand and he comes across as a control freak who thinks he is the Almighty and that people should be bowing down to him. And I also saw his antics on Oprah and while I dont blame him for being profesing his love for Katie, he does come across as slightly cuckoo! Without knowing these people personally I can only say that its possible they are quite normal people in real life. I guess none of us will really know for sure as Nicole has never spoken publicly about her life and split from Tom and neither did his first wife.
Yesterday while on the stairs, I saw a Man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today...I wish that He would go away!!
. . . I have seen interviews with Tom Cruise first hand and he comes across as a control freak who thinks he is the Almighty and that people should be bowing down to him. . . .
I see lawyers in Katies future. . and possibly 'witness protection' as well.
DEMOCRACY = Voters deciding by Poll on who will be the local member that "Big Business" will push around.
I think the media is more of a problem in all this than Tom Cruise himself. Yesterday on the news during the morning it was stated that 'The Japanese think Katie Holmes baby's name is a joke'. Just because the Hebrew name means something else in Japanese. In hebrew Suri (her name) means 'Princess' and in Japanese it means 'pickpocket'. Who cares what it means in other languages. My name is hebrew as well and means Lily. Most Western names derive from Hebrew or Anglo Saxon origins. The media perpetuates the TomKat (and now Suri) phenomenon. Any wonder he built a Hospital room in their house so she could give birth in peace and according to their beliefs. Imagine what a media circus there would have been otherwise! Leave the people alone to enjoy their new baby, I say (to the media).
All I have left to say on all this mind numbing stuff is that Katie is going to need a really good divorce lawyer if they ever split because I can foresee a lot of heartache for her with Tom demanding sole custody of their baby.
Yesterday while on the stairs, I saw a Man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today...I wish that He would go away!!
Scientology scouting? By Rebekah van Druten. Posted: Saturday, June 10 2006 .
For a brief moment in time, Suri Cruise was the most famous baby in the world.
Of course, that title now belongs to Shiloh Nouvel Jolie-Pitt.
But Hollywood heavyweights Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes don't seem to mind.
The soon-to-be wed couple have reportedly congratulated Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt on the newest addition to their family and Tom's personally invited them to visit the Church of Scientology when they return to LA (which some say will be sooner, rather than later).
"Even though they've know Tom for years, Cruise was the last person Brad and Angelina expected a call from. Tom's got babies on the brain. He's still euphoric over the birth of his new girl Suri. He got so caught up in the excitement ... he made the call."
Katie Holmes has breakdown: reports Thursday August 3, 2006
New mum Katie Holmes has had a break down as life with Tom Cruise spins out of control, according to reports in the U.S.
Friends claim that the 27-year-old actress was thrown over the edge as she was due to plan her wedding to the superstar actor, according to The National Enquirer.
The magazine also claims she is devastated at the controversy over her baby, Suri — who has still not been seen publicly — as well as the switch from being Catholic to a believer in Cruise's religion, Scientology.
The Enquirer claims Katie had a breakdown and took herself to Tom's ranch in Telluride, Colorado, to effectively hide from the world.
"It was a real emotional breakdown," a friend told the magazine.
"It is as if Katie felt the weight of the world was upon her — and she buckled.
"Katie reached breaking point and suddenly the events of the past year came crashing down on her."
The insider claims that Katie finds it hard to handle switching from her carefree life to "living Tom's CIA-like existence".
But the Enquirer claims the biggest blow to her has been loss of contact with her family, made worse by her newfound devotion to Scientology.
"Katie misses her family terribly," the family friend told the magazine.
"They're ardent Catholics and the very notion of her having a baby without getting married is incredibly difficult for them to understand."
The friends say they are terrified she cannot cope with her new lifestyle with arguably the world's most famous actor.
"Right now it looks as if Katie's barely managing to hang on," the friend said.
I'm surprised its taken this long for it to happen, poor girl...
The gossip at the moment is that Suri is horribly deformed (because no-one has seen this baby yet). Personally I am beginning to wonder if there really is a baby???
Yesterday while on the stairs, I saw a Man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today...I wish that He would go away!!
I too am very sus about this whole thing. It seems like some celebs are going to great lengths to say things like 'I saw the baby, there really is a baby!' and 'The baby is beautiful, not at all deformed in any way'.
Maybe theres a Days of our Lives thing going on, where it was really Katies secret twin who lived in a convent who was impregnated with TomKats baby because Katie lost the baby early on after everyone found out she was pregnant, and so the twin gave birth, but now she doesn't want to give up the baby, and so TomKat are fighting to get the baby off Katies crazy nun twin...
^^^^ROFLMTO^^^^ trust you to come up with a scenario that is so outlandish that it is probably true, Simpson! You may not post very much but when you do it is very quotable!
Studio shuns Cruise over 'bad behaviour' Wednesday Aug 23 12:37 AEST
Paramount Pictures has cut its 14-year-old ties to Tom Cruise's production company because of his off-screen behaviour, the chairman of the studio's parent company told the Wall Street Journal.
The remarks by Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone signalled the end of one of the most lucrative production deals commanded by an A-list Hollywood star and followed other signs that Cruise's stature had been damaged by his conduct during the past year.
There was no immediate comment from Cruise's representatives.
Although Cruise recently topped Forbes magazine's annual list of the world's 100 most powerful celebrities, his latest film, Mission Impossible III opened in May to lower-than-expected ticket sales. Days later an opinion poll showed his star power had dimmed considerably in the eyes of the public.
And last month, the Los Angeles Times reported that Paramount chairman Brad Grey was in talks with representatives for Cruise and his production partner Paula Wagner, with the aim of slashing the amount of money the studio pays the pair's movie company, Cruise/Wagner Productions.
Months earlier, Grey was one of several movie industry executives who publicly rallied to Cruise's defence to insist that the actor's status and popularity had not diminished.
They were reacting to a USA Today/Gallup poll in which half of those surveyed registered an "unfavourable" opinion of Cruise. Many cited his off-screen behaviour during the past year, including his intense public discussions of his faith in Scientology, and his blunt criticism of psychiatry and actress Brooke Shield's treatment for postpartum depression.
Cruise also became the butt of jokes for his manic, couch-hopping appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show last May to declare his love for actress Katie Holmes, who recently gave birth to Cruise's first biological child, a daughter named Suri.
"As much as we like him personally, we thought it was wrong to renew his deal," Redstone was quoted as saying in the Wall Street Journal.
"His recent conduct has not been acceptable to Paramount."
According to the Journal, representatives for Cruise said his production company, which had been on the Paramount lot since 1992, had decided to set up a new independent operation financed by two top hedge funds, which they declined to name.
Wagner told the newspaper such an arrangement represented a new business model for actors prominent enough to take advantage of investment capital from Wall Street.
"This is a dream of Tom and mine," she said.
Wagner also disputed Redstone's suggestion that Cruise's behaviour had cost the studio in ticket sales, saying that his movies had made a substantial amount of money for Paramount.
Five Paramount films starring the three-time Oscar nominee and produced by his company during the past decade have grossed more than $US2 billion ($A2.6 billion) worldwide.
Mission Impossible III grossed $US47.7 million ($A62.6 million) in its first three days in North America, well short of the $US60 million ($A78 million) to $US70 million ($A92 million) expected by industry watchers.
The film went on to amass $US393 million ($A516 million) in ticket sales around the world, a tidy sum but far less than his previous release from Paramount, War of the Worlds, which topped $US591 million ($A776 million) at the global box office.
His films make millions but his off-screen antics are risky business, writes Greg Hernandez.
BLAMING the actor's bizarre off-screen antics, Paramount Pictures is ending its 14-year relationship with Tom Cruise after the disappointing performance of his latest film, Mission: Impossible III.
"As much as we like him personally, we thought it was wrong to renew his deal," Sumner Redstone, the chairman of Paramount's parent company, Viacom, told The Wall Street Journal.
"His recent conduct has not been acceptable to Paramount," Redstone said.
The move comes after a number of highly criticised public appearances by Cruise, including a combative US Today Show interview during which he criticised the actress Brooke Shields for taking antidepressants to treat postnatal depression, as well as a couch-jumping romp on The Oprah Winfrey Show to proclaim his love for the actress Katie Holmes, who recently gave birth to their baby daughter.
In the past 18 months, Cruise has also stumped more zealously for the controversial Church of Scientology.
Even as Mission: Impossible III performed below expectations in the US, Paramount had steadfastly stood by its 44-year-old star publicly. The first real sign of discord came late last month when it was learnt that Cruise and his production partner, Paula Wagner, had been offered just $US2 million ($2.6 million) annually - down from a previous $US8 million deal - to run their offices on the Paramount lot.
A Viacom source said: "Their contract was up and we're not renewing his deal with Paramount. He's free to go wherever he wants. We wish him well."
Cruise could not be reached for comment. But Wagner played down the end of the business arrangement with Paramount and told the Journal that she and Cruise would set up an independent production operation financed by two top hedge funds she declined to name.
"This is a dream of Tom and mine," she said.
Still, Wagner said she was surprised by Redstone's announcement. She said agents for Cruise/Wagner Productions stopped negotiating with Paramount more than a week ago and have since secured independent financing, effectively taking any contract renewal deal off the table.
"It's not really the most businesslike approach," she said. "We've had virtually no dealings with Mr Redstone."
Cruise has long been one of the movie industry's biggest stars since bursting onto the scene in Risky Business in 1983. He has not only made a successful string of commercial hits, but also received Oscar nominations for his performances in Born on the Fourth of July, Jerry Maguire and Magnolia.
Cruise had his first $US100 million-grossing hit for Paramount with Top Gun 20 years ago. Since then, 13 movies headlined by the actor have reached that milestone in the US, including the past seven.
But with his good-guy image taking a battering during the 12 months before the premiere of Mission: Impossible III in May, critics wondered whether Cruise could retain his box office supremacy. The film began the US summer with less impact than expected with an opening weekend gross of $US47.7 million, well below estimates, before stalling at $US133.4 million. Mission: Impossible II grossed $US215.4 million domestically in 2000, while Mission: Impossible grossed $US180.9 million in 1996.
"Any time a sequel has a significant drop-off from its predecessors, the perception of disappointment rings in the air," box office analyst Brandon Gray said.
But Gray, the president of Box Office Mojo, said Cruise remained a huge international star, with M:I3 grossing $US237.4 million in foreign markets for a worldwide total of nearly $US390 million.
"The whole Tom Cruise bashing thing is a little unwarranted … It's difficult to knock a guy who has had so many $US100 million movies. I think his next picture will confirm his stature," he said. "We'll get a better sense of where he is with the public."
Cruise criticism stirs Hollywood debate Thursday Aug 24 14:53 AEST When one of Hollywood's most powerful men publicly scolded actor Tom Cruise, it appeared cost-conscious studios may finally be fed up with giving stars the star treatment. But some industry insiders believe Viacom Inc Chairman Sumner Redstone's rebuke of Cruise was more a sign that a great money-making career was on the wane. In few other places on Earth are stars pampered the way they are in Hollywood. Jewellers want to loan them diamonds, developers want to give them houses, and studios cater to their every whim. Few actors besides Cruise have been held in such high regard in Hollywood. But his last film, Mission: Impossible III, while raking in close to $US400 million ($A525 million) worldwide, did not do as well as hoped. And in Hollywood, you are often only as good as your last picture. Redstone said a key reason Viacom's film studio, Paramount Pictures, did not renew its deal with the actor was his off-screen behaviour.
Redstone told the Wall Street Journal: "He's a terrific actor. But we don't think someone who effectuates creative suicide and costs the company revenue should be on the lot."
Cruise raised eyebrows with several publicity gaffes in the past year, including his couch-hopping appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show, his outspoken espousal of Scientology and denunciations of psychiatry.
To some, Redstone's comments signal a major change in Hollywood.
"There is a definitive, palpable change in climate," one source at a major Hollywood talent agency said.
"Stars' demands have gotten so over-the-top, and they've gotten so petulant. And the studios, because they're part of publicly traded companies, have to maintain quarterly results, and are less intimidated by the stars," he said.
A high-ranking studio executive who declined to be named said, "I think we're more willing to say 'no' now. ... We're finding the more we pay, the less our profit margin is and the less people appreciate the risk that we're taking."
Hollywood producer Jerry Bruckheimer, whose credits include the Disney blockbuster Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, agreed that the demand for talent had become a kind of buyer's market.
"I think the studios are certainly being much more conscious of the bottom line, and they're being much more careful on how they structure their gross deals," he told Reuters. "They just are tightening the screws as far as what's good business for them and the (movie) community."
Nevertheless, the biggest stars, like Cruise and Tom Hanks, remain in demand, Bruckheimer said.
"If you want Tom Hanks for a picture, he's got a price. You either want him for the picture and pay his price, or you go to somebody else," he said, adding that mid-level performers are the ones who get squeezed.
In one high-profile example of Hollywood executives losing patience with their stars, the head of a major film production company sent a letter to actress Lindsay Lohan saying she was acting like "a spoiled child" on the set of Georgia Rules.
Film historian David Thomson said he thought Cruise was having career troubles based on his age and the loss of his boyish screen charm.
And with Cruise gone, Viacom could sign younger stars at a cheaper rate, he said.
This kid is only 4 months old, isn't that a big young to be passing stools like that? 6 months is generally the time to start solids, 4 month old babies are still on breast milk/formula, so their poop is liquid.
Regardless, that is just a disgusting thing! Bronze booties for crying out loud! Or pacifiers, or bibs!
My first reaction was to say 'What a load of...' but realised I was making a pun. I agree Simpson, that's no babies poo. Impossible. Remember the state of a baby's nappy? Nothing solid about it AT ALL!
Its like they're trying to proove "Yes, we really do have a baby! See? Baby poop!" Problem is, they're trying TOO hard to proove Suri's existance. I'm convinced there's something going on...
I find it hilarious that now Tom is apologising to Brooke Shields for what he said about her Post natal depression...me thinks he is trying hard to back pedal and prove to the word he is an okay guy...plus Katie is finally allowed out of the house although Suri has still not been seen...something screwy going on there
Yesterday while on the stairs, I saw a Man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today...I wish that He would go away!!
shes actually really cute! However, I heard something about her being the spawn of something evil and to be honest a few of those many photos gave me the ... ..
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Women hate Cruise, says studio boss Jamie Pandaram November 1, 2006 - 7:39AM
When did I decide? I don't know. When he was on the Today show? When he was jumping on a couch at Oprah?
The Hollywood supremo who severed Tom Cruise's contract with Paramount Pictures says he was influenced by his wife who, along with women all over the world, had come to hate the actor.
Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone, who sacked Cruise in August following bad publicity surrounding his odd behaviour during a televised interview with Oprah Winfrey, has told Vanity Fair his wife Paula first expressed her distaste for the Mission Impossible star.
"Paula, like women everywhere, had come to hate him," Redstone, 83, said. "The truth of the matter is, I did listen to her, but I make business decisions myself.
"His behaviour was entirely unacceptable to Paula, and to the rest of the world. He didn't just turn one (woman) off.
"He turned off all women, and a lot of men ... He was embarrassing the studio."
Cruise, a Scientologist, had also earned the ire of women when he criticised Brooke Shields over her use of anti-depressants for postnatal depression after the birth of her first child on the NBC's Today show.
Redstone, one of America's richest men, says Cruise had committed "creative suicide" and left him no choice but to end Paramount's 14-year association with the star and his company Cruise/Wagner Productions.
Redstone told the magazine: "When did I decide? I don't know. When he was on the Today show? When he was jumping on a couch at Oprah? He changed his handler, you know, to his sister - not a good idea.
"And he was costing us a lot of money. We felt he cost us $US100 million ($130 million), $US150 million ($A195 million) on Mission: Impossible III.
"It was the best picture of the three, and it did the worst."
Cruise's relationship with Katie Holmes has also been under constant scrutiny by gossip magazines. Cruise will star in a romantic comedy titled I Married A Witch, to be released next year.
It looks like Jamie Pandaram is still hurting over cruises split with Paramount and is still trying to convince people out there that he let go of hollywood's cash cow because of his personality.
TomKat wedding 'a stunt' Tuesday November 21, 2006 The cynics among us may not be surprised, but there are reports this morning the "wedding of the year" was a stunt. Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes have admitted they were actually married four days before their Rome extravaganza, staging a big show to promote the Church of Scientology. It's been reported a Scientologist advisor was placed at every table at the reception to answer questions. Roman clergy say the sham is insulting and Bracciano's mayor is considering taking back the honorary citizenship she offered after the couple refused to wave to well-wishers. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=164288 SHAME SHAME SHAME!
Yeah, I'm not surprised. They seemed like the type to hide their wedding, like most high profile celebs. The media found out too easily where the wedding was to be held, and TomKat didn't seem to phased by the medias presense. It didn't make much sense to me.
Cruise, Scientology slammed by Germany Tuesday Jun 26 06:00 AEST
By ninemsn staff
Tom Cruise and Scientology have suffered two major blows in as many days, with Germany's Defence Ministry and a US Christian group lashing out what they call a fake religion.
Germany barred Cruise from entering German military sites to shoot a movie about a plot to kill Adolf Hitler because he is a Scientologist.
The German government does not recognise the Church of Scientology as a real church, and says it masquerades as a religion to make money. Scientology leaders have fiercely denied these claims.
Defence Ministry spokesman Harald Kammerbauer said the film makers "will not be allowed to film at German military sites if Count Stauffenberg is played by Tom Cruise, who has publicly professed to being a member of the Scientology cult".
"In general, the Bundeswehr (German military) has a special interest in the serious and authentic portrayal of the events of July 20, 1944 and Stauffenberg's person," Kammerbauer said.
The ban came after Mark Dice, the founder of apocalyptic US Christian organisation The Resistance, claimed that Scientology is a Satanic cult.
“Yes, Tom Cruise worships Satan," said Dice, who has made several controversial public claims in recent years — including that the World Trade Centre attacks were a CIA plot.
"I don’t say this as an insult, or as an ad hominem attack. I seriously and literally mean he worships Satan, although most occultists, call him Lucifer the light bearer."
"In the Garden of Eden, Satan said if Man took the forbidden fruit that he would become just like god, actually becoming equal to God, and that is what occultists people believe."
"They believe they themselves, are gods," Mark Dice claims, before turning his comments directly to the Top Gun star.
"If you want a real religion, try going to a Christian Church, Tom, it's free."
Dice, who wrote the book The Resistance Manifesto under the Terminator-inspired alias John Connor, was in the news just a few weeks ago when he announced plans to hold a series of anti-Paris Hilton demonstrations outside Hilton hotels in the US.
On his MySpace website Dice is pictured smiling and holding a gun, with the caption: "Heard of the 2nd amendment?".
I beg to differ about Christian Church's being free. One reason I stopped attending Church even at Easter and Christmas was because the preacher was always crying out for money, money, money and true bible following Christians believe in 'tithing' which means giving 10% of your income. That equated to around $40-$50 per week for most income earning church going christians.
Katie's stunning new look November 30, 2007 09:30am
KATIE Holmes showed off a new look at an awards ceremony honoring her husband, Tom Cruise in Germany.
Holmes premiered her new longer-bob haircut on the red carpet as she and her husband made their way into a Duesseldorf ceremony, honoring Cruise for taking risks in his films.
While many suggested Katies last haircut took inspiration from her pal, Victoria Posh Spice Beckham, her new do, complete with heavy bangs and flatter edges, was entirely her own.
As for Cruise, he accepted his award from a prize committee who honored him for choosing courageous film roles, including his upcoming film Valkyrie.
Respected German historian Guido Knopp has compared a speech made by Tom Cruise to the Church of Scientology with a call to war by Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels.
Mr Knopp, an expert on World War II history, said in an interview with Bild newspaper: "Tom Cruise's manner calls to mind Goebbels."
The historian was commenting on a video recording of a rousing sermon Cruise delivered to fellow Scientology members four years ago. It was recently posted on the internet.
The Mission Impossible star is seen asking fellow members of the church: "Should we clean this place up?"
Mr Knopp says it is bound to remind Germans of Goebbels' notorious call for "total war" issued in Berlin on February 18, 1943.
"It is possible that the way in which Cruise speaks is common in many empowerment circles in the United States," he said.
"But the scene in which Cruise asks if the Scientologists should clean up the world and they all respond 'yes' will remind any German with an interest in history of Goebbels' infamous Sports Palace speech."
Cruise's portrayal of Nazi resistance hero Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg, an aristocrat who led a failed plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler in 1944, has caused much debate in Germany.
The film - titled Valkyrie after the codename of the plot - is due for release later this year.
Cruise's role in the Church of Scientology has also been examined in an unauthorised biography of the actor by British writer Andrew Morton.
The book, which hit shelves in the United States last week, has been described by the Church of Scientology as "replete with lies".
So.... it's Scientology's place to 'Clean up the world'. Get rid of all the alien believing Scientologist's to begin with (i may or may not believe in aliens but I do not believe we originated from aliens who invaded Earth). Their doctrine was dreamt up by L.Ron.Hubbard who was a science fiction/pulp fiction writer before the 50's. In the 50's he declared Scientology a Religion. Gee is it that easy!? So first order of cleaning up the world, IMHO, is get rid of the Scientologists. Then we'll sort the rest of us out I will be sorry to see such people as John Travolta and Kate Caberano disappear but hey, we can't discriminate one scientologist from another!
It is a cult, as far as the dictionary is concerned: (myself included in that) cult /kʌlt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhlt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult. 3. the object of such devotion. 4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc. 5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols. 6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. 7. the members of such a religion or sect. 8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific. –adjective 9. of or pertaining to a cult. 10. of, for, or attracting a small group of devotees: a cult movie.
What Tom Cruise said/says and believes smacks of fanaticism in the extreme. No different than other religious extremists see the world outside of their own beliefs and ideals. They are 'right' and we are 'wrong'. Tom makes a great trumped up little Nazi who believes in his own publicity, his own immortality and his own agenda and believes it is up to him to cleanse the world of those who oppose him. Good luck with that Tom
I get a bit fervent when posting about something that really really ticks me off. I don't believe for one second that we 'originated from apes'. Never ever ever believed that one. That's just my belief and my opinion. Aliens.......?
I did not want to make a new thread dedicated to Scientology and I never (almost) go into the Technology Boards so here it is....
Hackers declare Scientology D-day Leo Shanahan February 7, 2008 - 11:27AM New videos claiming to be from Anonymous have been posted on YouTube, naming February 10 as an international day of protest against Scientology.
New videos claiming to be from Anonymous have been posted on YouTube, naming February 10 as an international day of protest against Scientology. Anonymous internet users who have previously crashed Church of Scientology websites have named February 10 as a worldwide day of protest in a bid to "destroy" the controversial religion.
The group - called Anonymous - which includes skilled computer hackers, has posted a message on YouTube declaring war on Scientology, accusing it of trying to censor the internet and conducting "campaigns of misinformation".
The apparent catalyst for the attack was YouTube's decision to remove a video of Hollywood star Tom Cruise - one of Scientology's most high-profile recruits - espousing the religion's virtues after the church asked that it be pulled.
"Anonymous has therefore decided that your organisation should be destroyed, for the good of your followers, for the good of mankind, and for our own enjoyment," the statement says.
"We shall proceed to expel you from the internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form," it continues.
The message, read by a computerised voice and set against a grey cityscape, finishes with the ominous statement: "We are Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."
Last week several major Scientology websites crashed in the United States and Britain. The FBI was asked to investigate after envelopes of white powder were sent to 19 Scientology churches in the Los Angeles area.
While Scientology websites now appear to be functioning normally, Anonymous, which has warned "that it does not expect its campaign to be completed in a short time frame", may yet be saving its largest attack for February 10.
New videos claiming to be from Anonymous have been posted on YouTube, naming February 10 as an international day of protest against Scientology.
Named Project Chanology, the protests are being organised through Facebook groups and online chat rooms, with official Scientology websites and even its buildings being touted as targets.
Protests are organised for cities including Sydney, New York, Los Angles, London, Vancouver and Stockholm.
A former hacker turned security analyst for government departments and large companies told The Age Anonymous was not an organised group of hackers, but a mass of people - probably young men - joining message board groups and targeting organisations they saw as impeding free speech and expression.
"They are anonymous message boards, which means they can post anything without fear of reprisal," the analyst, who asked not to be named, said.
"They'll do something like all join a Ku Klux Klan website at once and stuff it up."
Given nature of the organisation, the action planed for February 10 could involve just "a few kids in glasses showing up and asking stupid questions" - or "really radical elements".
"You can't pin it on a person or a group of people. You've thousands of people engaged to do anything they can against Scientology.
"But what you may well get is the Church of Scientology using this to encourage authorities to go after the concept of anonymity on the internet."
A spokeswoman for Scientology in Australia said authorities were dealing with the threats.
The spokeswoman said the church wanted the Tom Cruise video removed from YouTube because it was a pirated version of footage that Scientology held copyright over.
"The pirated and edited excerpts of Mr Cruise were contained in an official church event in 2004, an event attended by 5,000 Scientologists and their guests.
"Having presented these selective and out-of-context excerpts with the intent of creating both controversy and ridicule, nevertheless resulted in people searching for and visiting Church of Scientology websites.
"Those wishing to find out the Church of Scientology's views and to gain context of the video have the right to search official church websites if they so desire."
I don't believe she is joking Dara. That's not to say she actually believes we did come from Aliens, it's just to say she (and I) believe that scenario OVER the belief that we came from Apes.
Tom Cruise looks like a young man again as weight loss takes years off his appearance By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 6:13 PM on 15th December 2008 Tom Cruise was the picture of health today as he appeared on a US chat show.
Cruise, who was recently pictured looking a few pounds heavier, seems to have shed his excess weight as he looked years younger on the Today Show in New York. Tom Cruise looked years younger as he appeared on the Today show in New York
The Mission Impossible actor, 46, was on the show to promote his latest film, Valkyrie, in which he plays real-life Nazi officer Colonel Stauffenberg, the mastermind behind the last known assassination plot to kill Adolf Hitler during World War II.
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and Born on the Fourth of July (1989). By the 1990s he was one of the highest paid actors in the world earning an average 15 million dollars a picture in such blockbuster hits as _Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles (1994)_ , Mission: Impossible (1996) and Jerry Maguire (1996) for which he received an Academy Award Nomination for best actor. In 1990 he renounced his devout Catholic beliefs and embraced The Church Of Scientology claiming that Scientology teachings had cured him of the dyslexia that had plagued him all of his life. A kind and thoughful man well known for his compassion and generosity, Tom Cruise is one of the best liked members of the movie community. He was married to actress Nicole Kidman until 2001. Thomas Cruise Mapother IV has indeed come a long way from the lonely wanderings of his youth.
, I was so horrified by the fact they have their own scanner that I totally missed the bit about him being one of the 10 most fascinating people of the year. Who the hell are the other 9? OMG... maybe they should of had a 10 biggest jerks of the year, I know he would of been on that list. Most fascinating people of where, his neighbourhood? Certainly not the World. Good grief, I think I am going to lose my mind.
Yes I hope that Katies parents do keep an eye out for her. From all accounts her parents aren't really all that impressed with Tom's power or connections...the don't appear to be the star struck stage parents. Hopefully they will keep her grounded...Katie seems to be a lovely young lady and I didn't mind her acting...let's hope she can keep her identity and that she resists Tom's efforts to do movies with him...
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