FACT: Reality TV isn't REALLY reality! Silver Class eBlaher
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I am all for smoking bans !!
I don't give a damn what all you smokers out there think. Look at reality, smoking IS rotting away your organs inside !!
I went by a hospital and sickening to say that there were smokers puffin' away just outside the hospital also not to forget to mention, a few patients there did smoke. That's no joke !!
I'm with you on this, babes_mate! I would love to see smoking banned from ALL public indoor and outdoor places, though I don't know how possible that is.
^^^Did I miss something here? ^^^ I agree with your view on smoking Babes mate. Queensland made sweeping changes to smoking in Clubs and Pubs and Shopping Centres and it has been nothing but good news. People congregate outside the shopping centres' doors and I take a deep breath before making a dash for the inside of the centres.
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You missed something on the old ebroadcast forum.
Also, babes_mate's opinion is centered around being sickened by what people do to themselves and he hasn't stated that it pisses him off because he has to tolerate immediate incoveniance caused by smokers nor that it's an increased risk to his heath... just that he judges that he is better than sikened by people who smoke because they are harming their bodys. Your opinion is that smoking is annoying because you find it nasty while babes_mate is only concerned with self righteousness and hasn't stated the same reasons as you. It's all fine by me for people to dislike it, but I do have a problem with self-rightousness and to make myslef a hypocrite and be self rightious I'll continue on to say that a self-righteous attitude that isolates one's self from what is realistically possible, in this case becoming addicted after making initial stupid decisions and smoking to begin with for whatever reason, is denial of one's own human nature and this has detrimental outcomes including inability to look out for (through denial of potential), in ourselves, whatever the said behaviour is that we tell ourselves we are above, better than, and super human about. I doubt anyone is at great risk of smoking at babe_mate's age but there is still, in my opinion, no "better than" in regards to this. There's "less likely to", "Glad it didn't happen to me," and that's about it... "I find it nasty" is a valid statement of opinion but it wasn't what he said. If one's to be angry at smokers it should be for the right reasons I think, and those reasons should be imperfectly selfish ones and not perfect "holier than" ones. He used a puke smiley over people doing things that have no direct impact on him... most people would use that, if they chose, for expressing the smell of cigarrettes, but to express the charactor of what he's stating as strangers...
I find his expression of it self-rightiously annoying. I feel okay with expressing my annoyance in the face of him doing the same thing in the way it was done when in regards to the topic at hand, and bringing up his aformentioned weight problem was suitable in getting my point accross.
People dislike smokers because it smells, it's irritating... some people might be fearful of losing someone, but the real reason is not "People who smoke are sickening because it's harmful to them," and whatever the circumstance that a person feels that way, it's counterproductive to both themselves and to a smoker.
The overwhelming majority of smokers who quit have tried and failed multiple times before stopping for any significant length of time, and as someone who has stopped smoking I can say that my experience is that apart from withdrawal itself, the hardest thing, and the biggest fear involved, is the thought of being unsuccessful and being a complete and total failure as a person as a result, how it will look to others, and it is the attitude expressed in post # 1 that causes these feelings. It's an unfair burden to put on one's self and it is an unfair burden to put on another person, that they feel they are less than human... not normal, when it's resulting from an attitude reflecting "I"m better than you." Ironically, the implied statement in this case that would cause a smoker to feel that way and to be discouraged from trying to quit again for increased fear of the same thing, is "People should quit smoking"... and that additionally pisses me off. I don't embrace cigarette smoke either but I try to keep from feeling like God about it.
That should clear things up and contribute a little more in doing so.
Channel nine news today reported tobacco companies seem to be stockpiling old pack so they avoid using the new mandatory ones with the graphic health issue pics. I wonder how long they can hold out before the government wises up and forces them to use the new packs.
DEMOCRACY = Voters deciding by Poll on who will be the local member that "Big Business" will push around.
My second ex-husband smoked. Mostly roll your own and a tailor made pack would last a week or more. He was going to give up when he turned 40 but when he turned 40 life wasn't that great and he kept smoking (Never inside BTW). A few years later I noticed that the ashtray didn't need emptying or cleaning for a few days then I realised he had stopped smoking. I went into the room where he was on the Computer and looked at him and he said "I wondered how long it would take for you to realise!" he had given up 4 days before. He quit cold turkey. No withdrawals, no bad moods (no more than usual) and no binge eating (just binge drinking, heheh). I think people who give up smoking after many years of indulging their habit deserve praise. At least it is a step in the right direction for their health.
. . . . I think people who give up smoking after many years of indulging their habit deserve praise. At least it is a step in the right direction for their health.
They deserve all the accolades they can get when they quit. . it saves their health . . taxpayers health payouts. . and their own money. . I can't believe how expensive it is to smoke. . I can't afford to take it up!. .
DEMOCRACY = Voters deciding by Poll on who will be the local member that "Big Business" will push around.
I was a heavy smoker for about 20 years, then gave it away in 1977 by going "cold turkey". There were no such things as patches in those days. I wish I had all the money I have saved since then..lol, but it don't work like that
Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
WORKERS at a major government department have been banned from taking cigarette breaks during office hours, setting a precedent for workplaces nationwide. Under the new rules, public servants will only be allowed to smoke during their lunch hour.
Those breaking the ban will be disciplined with verbal and written warnings and counselling.
Smoking will also be banned within 15m of the government department's offices.
More than 3000 staff employed Australia-wide by the Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources and its associated agencies will be hit by the new rules.
Department chief Mark Paterson told The Daily Telegraph he issued the new edict primarily because of health issues.
"We're moving into a new premises in October that incorporates a childcare centre and I don't want parents and children to be confronted by a phalanx of smokers out the front of the building," he said.
"We're giving people plenty of notice and we're providing financial support for quit programs and other courses. I'm prepared to consider providing support to employees' spouses if that assists them in giving up, too.
"We can't restrict what people do outside of hours and during their lunch hours but we can do so during working hours."
Friends Christina Prineas and Kristi Armstrong, who were enjoying a break within 15m of the department building, strongly objected to the ban yesterday.
"I can't believe it -- it's a form of discrimination," said Ms Armstrong, a smoker.
"I work at the Tax Office, and maybe 80 per cent of our office smokes. A ban just wouldn't work."
Ms Prineas, who works at nearby Airservices Australia, said she was a non-smoker but still objected to the ban. "They shouldn't be able to restrict your freedoms like that," she said.
In my opinion non-smokers are discriminated against because they DON'T have a smoke break. How can smokers justify taking 5-10 minutes off for a smoke break every hour or so when other workers, who do not smoke are not given that privilege?
..."I can't believe it -- it's a form of discrimination," said Ms Armstrong, a smoker...
Well boo flippin' hoo! It'd be nice if I could disappear for 5-10 minutes when I felt the urge. I doubt the school admininstration would see it that way, though.
^^^What she said!!^^^ When I was in the 'work force' 150 million years ago.... I hated taking a 'loo' break. Also we females weren't allowed to wear trousers/long pants. We had to wear skirts and I lived in Central West NSW at the time and the winters were harsh (in 1970), and mini-skirts were IN. When I was about 17 we were given permission to wear slacks. The smokers think they have it bad, Huh!
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