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Gizmo
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The mother 'hurted' that child the minute she took her into a 'de-facto' relationship with that guy.  
It is the most dangerous situation to put small children into . . but people persist in doing it.
  


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I know the subject of defacto's abusing their partner's natural children causes you great concern Gizmo, and knew you would reply. I completely agree. These young women have made bad choices in their lives and continue to do so. The fact that this poor excuse for a mother participated in the abuse is just horrifying. So many young women leave their child/children in the 'care' of their usually young boyfriend/partner/defacto without 'knowing' what that person can be capable of! Most of the time, being young and immature the guy is jealous of the child because of several reasons. Two being that the child 'competes' with him for the mother's attention and he is jealous of the fact that someone else fathered this child and it is biologically not his! Look what happened to little Jayden Leskie down at Moe in Victoria. This kind of thing (abuse) happens every day to some children who are caught up in their mother's dysfunctional relationship/s.  


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The court system needs to do some explaining!.

If  we steal $$$ we are sentenced to years in prison . (and rightly so)

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,20694438-1702,00.html?from=public_rss

But if we 'Home Invade' a strangers house and keep the owners hostage for 7 hours and finally beat their heads to a pulp with a hammer . . just 27months!!

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20691686-2682,00.html

Since when did money crimes become more 'penalised' than attempted murder ??       


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It does NOT make sense. That's the judicial system we have and it is written and enforced by fools.


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Rapist brothers bashed in jail
February 9, 2007 - 7:27PM

Two brothers serving time in a NSW jail for a series of gang rapes have been bashed by eight other inmates, leaving one of them in a critical condition.

At 12.30pm (AEDT) yesterday a gang of eight prisoners at Goulburn jail attacked two of their fellow inmates in the prison yard, NSW Corrective Services said.

One of the bashed men, aged 26, sustained critical head injuries and was taken to Canberra Hospital where he remains in a stable condition, police said.

The other, a 28-year-old, was taken to Goulburn Base Hospital with arm injuries but has since been returned to the jail.

Authorities would not directly confirm the identities of the men but the Nine Network reported them to be the elder pair of four Pakistan-born brothers convicted in 2002 for a number of gang rapes, including that of Tegan Warner, who was 14 at the time.

The brothers, who were only able to be identified in court by their initials, are serving between 10 and 28 years in prison.

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rapist-brothers-bashed-in-jail/2007/02/09/1170524293487.html


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Now I'm curious as to what the "bashers" were serving time for.



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Quoted from Sillygostly
Now I'm curious as to what the "bashers" were serving time for.


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Heheheh... off with their heads!
Well sillygostly, it is a well known fact that rapists, beaters and killers of women and children have punishment dished out to them by 'other' inmates who may be in gaol for... robbery, burglary, drug dealing and various other offences. Normally these lowest of the low (rapists and child molesters etc) are kept in 'protective' custody in another wing of the gaol especially kept for paedophiles, rapists and the like. These rapists/prisoners were attacked in the open prison yard.


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Authorities would not directly confirm the identities of the men but the Nine Network reported them to be the elder pair of four Pakistan-born brothers convicted in 2002 for a number of gang rapes, including that of Tegan Warner, who was 14 at the time.

I remember these ******* saying they should not be sentenced because in pakistan would they did would have been acceptable. So I guess we can cross reference with the "multiculturalism" thread.

Hopefully they're now taking a piece of barbed wire up the **** in order to fully understand what they did



      


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. . . . . .  they should not be sentenced because in pakistan what they did would have been acceptable .  . . . . .


It boggles my mind to think that anyone would want to have sex with somebody they deemed as below their pious standards . .  so if these Muslim boys were proud of their acts . . and their families think it is OK to violate those 'less fortunate' . . then it speaks loudly for their 'system of belief'. . . *not in a good way*   . . for myself - - I am not planning a rendezvous with the local hobbo.  




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How would rape NOT be a crime in Pakistan?



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How would rape NOT be a crime in Pakistan?


There is no such crime as Rape in Pakistan.!!
It is sanctioned as a punishment that the courts can administer in the name of justice.   

There is however 'Adultery' for which act . . the woman must die!
If she refuses to commit suicide, she will be paraded naked through her town to be jeered at by the local men. . with the purpose of causing her to kill herself to 'hide' the crime. (if she is dead. . the crime did not happen)  

Owning up to being raped is the same as admitting to adultery . .they see no difference .  

I post the links but could not bring myself to copy-paste the stories . . my 'mouse' was too disgusted.  

Pakistan_Rape_Laws-1

Pakistan_Rape_Laws_2

We should note these cultural issues when permitting such refugees into our country . . how will these customs ever fit into the community we know?






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Again there is a lot of lumping all into one generalisation.

Yes there are Muslim nations that covertly sanction rape like Pakistan and Iran. There are many other Muslim nations that treat it as an extremely serious crime, even harsher than we here do, where in some cases the men of the family of the victim take revenge on the rapist, often killing them, and the state turns a blind eye.

Then there is India, not even Muslim but Hindu, where archaic rape laws mostly find favour with the accused and punish the victim. I could post links to many horrific cases, like the one where underage girls were raped by police, in show trials the police were given very lenient sentences just to placate the families and then soon after released on appeal because the sexual intercourse was consensual and the girls encouraged it.

Then there are rape cases in Western societies, especially by certain groups within America, and there have been cases here, where the rapists basically get token punishments and many get let off. What about whole radical Christian societies in the US, where the taking and raping of underage girls by the elders is actually sanctioned?

Muslim societies that condone rape should be condemned in the highest order, but so should other societies and judiciaries that either down play, covertly condone it whilst overtly stating they deplore it and anywhere the victim is blamed. Also those Christian communities in America that condone the taking of underage girls for their elders should be shut down immediately in a show how seriously the West takes the crime of rape.


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Again there is a lot of lumping all into one generalisation. . . . . .


Cool down . . we are not generalising . . the response is to the gaol bashing the other day of Pakistani boys who used a 'we do this in OUR country' defence to assaults committed here. (go back and read the flow)
We don't need to go through EVERY countries penal code . . or we end up 'off topic' .  . .of course it is a heinous crime everywhere . . but in this thread we are just commenting on the other days gaol event and who was involved.




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Again there is a lot of lumping all into one generalisation.


I didn't see any of that.  I saw a lot of specifics, regarding Pakistan and rape laws, including some links.  Did I miss something?  


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